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The Shiner's larger kin....
« on: 12/30/17 10:25 UTC »
I did these up to put in  a new box for the waldo fishing. The heads range from the 3/16 to the 3/8 and have hooks  suggested in the mold except the 3/8 which sports a 4/0 Matzuo. All of these Matzuo hooks are remnants from several years ago when Matzuo had a huge problem with quality control and I was credited new hooks from a provider. I had to sort thru a mess of then to get enough to do this casting session and still had some issues getting the hooks in the mold along with the wires. The problem with the hooks is the stem length between the hook shank and tie eye. The hooks DID NOT come from Do-It and this issue is supposed to be a thing of the past.

I added a perch color and removed the orange and black in this bunch. I also tweaked the pink this time using fluorescent pink and cutting it about 25% with pearl magenta and adding a touch of reducer to help the pearl flow. The green back of the perch was done by mixing fluorescent green and green pearl about equal and using the reducer again. The chartreuse that looks almost gold is the lime pearl and fluorescent yellow at about 60/40% respectively and cut with some reducer. The purple pearl and orange fluorescent are right out of the bottle, neither needing any help from reducer. The purple and pink numbers all have the orange throat patch in orange.

In each color the chartreuse was applied first in a nice coat that covered without the paint pushing. Too close, too much pressure or too much paint will result in the paint "pushing" and stacking up on an edge of the spray pattern. Putting down a nice even coat is all that's needed in the chartreuse. The other colors are single coats blown on at an angle so the coverage is at the back/bottom and feathers down the sides. Generally, keep the coats light and thin  but just heavy enough to get good color. If I end up with a really thin area and the lead shows I leave it since the Seal Coat will cover it and the added reflection is always welcome. I've found out that attempting to amend thin areas usually turns out to be a bad idea so I just leave the paint as is or wash it off and start over. 

You'll note again that the purple outnumbers any others....its absolutely my go to color for basically everything I fish. That perch color has been a real solid walleye/sauger performer too so the black/orange went and the perch came in. The perch is a real looker and I am happy with the outcome in doing the three color. The orange throat patch shows in a few of these but in the hand its a thing of beauty. The patch can be a challenge to apply without over-doing it so whenever I can get the practice I take.

 

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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #1 on: 12/30/17 11:32 UTC »
As always those look amazing
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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #2 on: 12/30/17 11:46 UTC »
I think your ready to paint crankbaits. Another awesome pic by the master.

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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #3 on: 12/31/17 18:21 UTC »
Tom's picture (and -10 degrees so it's too cold to go ice fishing) motivated me out to the garage to mold some Diner Shiners and toss them in along with some crankbaits I was planning to paint.

This is the 3/8 oz with 3/0 Matzuo 9014

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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #4 on: 12/31/17 18:57 UTC »
Lookin good Andrew, do you always fish your grub tail up? I usually fish mine with the tail pointed down.


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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #6 on: 12/31/17 19:09 UTC »
Looks great Andy I like it a lot!

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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #7 on: 12/31/17 20:09 UTC »
Lookin good Andrew, do you always fish your grub tail up? I usually fish mine with the tail pointed down.

I figure the first curl acts like a rudder and doesn't block the path to the hook if it was riding up. But some say if you rig it with the tail pointed up it can fowl on the hook (really?).

Frankly, I rig it both ways...and never have really given it a lot of thought!


« Last Edit: 12/31/17 20:24 UTC by andrewlamberson »
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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #8 on: 12/31/17 20:39 UTC »
I have always preferred the tail up. No reason really, I just think it looks better that way. To each his own they say. Good looking rig Andy.

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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #9 on: 12/31/17 20:46 UTC »
Great jig and plastic combo Andy. There is a difference in the action of the tail depending on how the tail is positioned if you hold one pointing up and it turns like a cork screw wish on a jig it has great action. Pointing down it just stays pointing down. The thing about a twister type bait they work no matter how you want to put it on.
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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #10 on: 12/31/17 22:01 UTC »
This is probably rambling from an old man with bad eyesight but I have always fished my curly tails with the curly tail up until about last year or so.  I really think I get better tail action on the fall with the curl facing down and have since fished with them that way.  I think it has helped.
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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #11 on: 12/31/17 22:24 UTC »
Looks like I have to try tail down this next season.

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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #12 on: 12/31/17 22:43 UTC »
ok...Tail up on even dates....tail down on odd days!
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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #13 on: 01/01/18 08:07 UTC »
In the auto-air colors there is a purple tint color listed. Its a color shifting finish to lay over a dark or black base, but man a person will pay dearly for that. Clear top coat and some of the pearls I brush on plastics will get you a way larger field of playthings with essentially the same effects. Much cheaper.

Andy...have you tried the auto air directly on a shiny, fresh cast head? No undercoat.

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Re: The Shiner's larger kin....
« Reply #14 on: 01/01/18 08:50 UTC »
ok...Tail up on even dates....tail down on odd days!

Dang, you figured it out!
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