Author Topic: Glitter...aka Flake  (Read 4362 times)

Offline BareKnuckleJigs

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Glitter...aka Flake
« on: 03/05/15 13:51 UTC »
Does adding Flake REALLY make a difference to the Fish?  Or does it matter more to the Fisherman?

IF it makes a difference, why?  Is it flash that gets their attention, and/or sets it apart?  Or are the Fish actually just GoldDiggers that think it may be worth money and they can bring it to the Pawn Shop?  Does flashy Metallic Flake "imitate scale", or have we just been so conditioned throughout our lives by Bait/Lure Companies that we think it's necessary?  Is it just a confidence thing?  If it's confidence, why do we feel flake-free baits won't work as well?

I'm generally referring to all Flake, but mostly the Flashy Stuff.  Can I throw a "Junebug" Dark Purple bait with no Kelly Green Flake and not do just as good?  If the "Flash" helps, can't I add a little Hilite for a little Flash, to satisfy the Fishes' Minds (and my own)?

Also, I'm referring to Colored baits with Flake, not so much Clear with Flake.

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Offline toojayz

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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #1 on: 03/05/15 15:03 UTC »
You know this is a really good question. I have thought about that many times as well. I make all different combos color flake etc. for people and they tell me they all catch fish. I really can't say yes or no though... I want to hear from you guys too

Offline b.eipert

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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #2 on: 03/05/15 15:08 UTC »
I have had days where I would get nothing on a jig with a green pumpkin trailer. I would take that same jig and put a green pumpkin blue flake trailer and would kill them. I think it has something to do with how it catches light
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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #3 on: 03/05/15 15:17 UTC »
I've also had times when a regular watermelon seed wouldn't get many bite but a watermelon seed with red would get a ton. The fish would follow the lizard but never actually take it unless it had the red. Most times it probably doesn't do much but i think it does get extra bites when the fish are feeling picky.

Might even be in our favor having the ability to put flake in that other people can't. A little bit of difference is always good imo


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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #4 on: 03/05/15 15:21 UTC »
Light penetration is the key. You have to have light to make glitter shine. So the dirtier the water, or the deeper you fish the less effect the glitter has. Also, what is your bait trying to duplicate? Minnows give off glitter, crawfish do not. So, my theory is minnow baits fished shallow, use glitter. Everything else it's a waste of time.( So why is watermelon with red flake so popular?) ;D

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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #5 on: 03/05/15 15:39 UTC »
Like a lot of things in fishing 'it doesn't matter, except when it matters'.

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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #6 on: 03/05/15 17:24 UTC »
I think close up it can matter quite a bit.  I'm not even as concerned with shine as I am color contrast.  Crayfish certainly don't have shiny scale spots like a minnow, but they may have different colored spots or bumps and glitter can replicate that.  If I want shine from a glitter I think most metallic glitters fall short, IMO you really need to use holo glitters to get a noticeable light play factor.  The shininess of metallic glitter probably helps with contrast more than catching and reflecting light.

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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #7 on: 03/05/15 19:12 UTC »
I'd really like to know exactly what the fish think. Personally I see glitter having some limited affect in clearer waters and in clearer baits. Beyond that, I think glitter just makes people feel warm and fuzzy.
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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #8 on: 03/05/15 19:19 UTC »
I've been sight fishing in the past and seen first hand how a slight colour change in flake can turn the bite around. Same when vertical jigging walleye in clear water, change the flake and shut the bite down.

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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #9 on: 03/05/15 20:31 UTC »
ONE time, in Venice, LA...I spotted a hefty Redfish in clear, shallow water.  Tossed a sparkly plastic way passed it and crawled it towards the Fish.  That fish spun around and faced the bait then ran straight passed it.  I changed to a natural color and kept casting.  Redfish was spotted minutes later, I believe it to be the same fish.  Same cast passed, same crawl, fish even did a similar spin and darted again.  I thought it took off again but it paused and picked the bait up.

Fish are odd creatures, for sure.  I've seen days on both sides of this topic, but I don't have the options I have now.
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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #10 on: 03/05/15 21:44 UTC »
I don't always pay attention to signature lines, n' just read yours BKJ.  The scientific name Nazi in me just noticed you missed the t in paralichthys lethostigma.   :P

I think we've all experienced days where glitter, or lack of it, makes a difference.  But even if it's for my benefit only, the fish don't seem to mind and I like pretty baits.  But it's the only way to easily copy some color patterns.  Like this one, a fish I currently breed:


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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #11 on: 03/05/15 23:27 UTC »
HuH?!  There's no "T" in Flounder!  LoL!  Thank You Sir!
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Re: Glitter...aka Flake
« Reply #12 on: 03/08/15 20:57 UTC »
I am a firm believer in the sparkly and/or halo glitters with a little sun shining (especially for clear water), but I don't think the opaque flakes do much, unless the color is fairly weak (such as a motor oil).