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Jigs, Spinnerbaits and Sinkers => Crappie / Pan Fish Jigs => Topic started by: efishnc on 01/14/21 17:05 UTC

Title: DOoska jig
Post by: efishnc on 01/14/21 17:05 UTC
Although one of my projects from last year was to modify the Do-it Darter head mold and make a pseudo mooska jig for ice fishing, I didn't finally get to it until today.  The mod was quite simple, just dremel out a few spots for a hook facing the opposite direction... the red hooks are #12s in 1/64oz, and the gold hooks are #10s in 1/32oz... now I gotta charge the camera battery and head to the backwaters for a test drive.

Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: ctom on 01/14/21 21:57 UTC
That's a nifty flip-flop.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Lines on 01/15/21 09:41 UTC
Definitely want to hear the results of that test run Efishnc. Nice work man!
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: efishnc on 01/15/21 12:47 UTC
Thanks fellas-

If all goes well, I think I will be with a buddy on the ice tomorrow... I'll keep you posted as to how these perform.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Lines on 01/15/21 14:38 UTC
👍
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: ctom on 01/27/21 11:35 UTC
So E, have you fished this jig yet? How did it do?
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: efishnc on 01/27/21 12:05 UTC
Generally speaking, I consider fishing to be a camaraderie sport and I'm really not one to fish by myself (other than fly fishing smallmouth).  My buddy had something come up last weekend, so I did not make it out, but we are planning on a new date this coming week.

Truth be told, I think this design will be better in the open water because having the head angle down will likely give this a little wobble on the retrieve, something like the old grave digger jig... I'm probably more excited to try this in open water now since I have thought about it a little.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Skimpy253 on 01/27/21 13:00 UTC
Let us know how you do.  Looks cool
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: efishnc on 01/27/21 14:00 UTC
Thanks Skimpy... I'm expecting good things with this modified design and I'll definitely update the forum on what I find while experimenting with it.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: ctom on 01/27/21 14:34 UTC
I thought maybe on a freefall it would glide down in a circular fashion. Was curious is all. I might do the mod on a couple cavities in 1/32 and jig it a go thru the ice here in the next couple days. Carole will be at the daughters for four or five days so I'll have free range to fish a little. I've been using Clam's "Frost" line thru the ice and its about as thin as a blonde hair. There's zero resistance with the line and that jig I think should sail with the head angle reversed like that.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: efishnc on 01/28/21 17:01 UTC
The most notable change over the original design is the jig balance, and this one has a neutral position that is dead level... certainly the angle of presentation can be changed on any jig by positioning a tight knot at different locations on the eye, but those I made hang perfectly horizontal when a line is run straight through (without tying), whereas an actual mooska hangs with a little bit of an angle.  All in all, it should be a good little jig for the pannies, hard water or soft.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Agronomist_at_ia on 01/30/21 11:37 UTC
Although one of my projects from last year was to modify the Do-it Darter head mold and make a pseudo mooska jig for ice fishing, I didn't finally get to it until today.  The mod was quite simple, just dremel out a few spots for a hook facing the opposite direction... the red hooks are #12s in 1/64oz, and the gold hooks are #10s in 1/32oz... now I gotta charge the camera battery and head to the backwaters for a test drive.

So what did you do exactly to the darter jig?
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: efishnc on 01/30/21 19:41 UTC
So what did you do exactly to the darter jig?

This is what it looks like with no modification.

(https://store.do-itmolds.com/assets/images/tackle/3031B_thumbnail.jpg)

I made it so the majority of the weight is on the bottom (similar to the mooska) rather than the top.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Fatman on 02/06/21 16:05 UTC
Nice Mod!!
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: efishnc on 02/06/21 16:36 UTC
Thanks brother!
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Agronomist_at_ia on 07/27/21 21:23 UTC
Very nice mod....looks like it make a great Ice jig.....how was the action?
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: efishnc on 07/28/21 06:48 UTC
Very nice mod....looks like it make a great I've jig.....how was the action?

To be honest, I think my plastic (even though small) had too much resistance to make the head wobble side to side as I hoped for (or suspected it could/should)... maybe this might be more of a possibility with a tied (kip tail) jig and/or if it was retrieved through the water, but it is not evident when lightly jigged for ice fishing.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Agronomist_at_ia on 08/15/21 22:22 UTC
To be honest, I think my plastic (even though small) had too much resistance to make the head wobble side to side as I hoped for (or suspected it could/should)... maybe this might be more of a possibility with a tied (kip tail) jig and/or if it was retrieved through the water, but it is not evident when lightly jigged for ice fishing.

Did you try just tipping it with 2-3 spikes? Typically when using a jig like the mooska or like you made I just usually do spikes or a wax worm. If I do put a plastic tail on it, I usually just pull the tail section off and thread it or use the tiny ice tickler one.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: efishnc on 08/16/21 06:15 UTC
I can't say much about spikes/waxies because just don't use them... (I can't remember the last time I bought waxies other than it's been a couple of decades). Before I started injecting my own ice plastics, I was using Berkeley power wigglers (which stemmed from my early success using power worms for bass); the action, longevity, price point, etc. of using plastics simply outweighs the benefits of live bait with me.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: ctom on 08/16/21 06:35 UTC
My fishing pal did the flip-flop with the hooks in this darter mold and does very well in open water with the 1/16 ones tipped with a 1.5" Thump-It, under a slip float.

I'm in efishnc's camp on the baits for smaller ice type jigs except I lean towards the Gulp products. It's been almost 30 years since I bought waxies or spikes, longer for minnows. As I have mentioned in previous posts I save the jars and juice from Gulp baits and add my plastics to the jars/juice. I carry a Gulp bottle of the longer Wax Wigglers in assorted colors as well as another couple full of 1.5" Thump-Its in a half-dozen colors. In their own right the two baits are dynamite for panfish and crappies but soaked in the Gulp juice seems to energize them even more. I know there are arguments that plastics don't absorb scents that are other than oil based, but I'll argue for a long time that the soaked baits I use do in fact take on the scent after being continually immersed in the juice for two years or more. I like the Kietech Swing Impact in the 2" size for a crappie/panfish bait and have a couple Gulp jars for those too.

Everyone starts their fishing careers using live bait of some sort so I won't knock it. I just find my bait confidence totally tied up in plastic or occasionally hair.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: WALLEYE WACKER on 08/16/21 10:44 UTC
I’m not sure how much difference the action of the jig hook position you may get more wobble wit the eye in the #1 bottom left of Penney is the standard hook I would think you would get a rocking motion #2 Top right of Penney position might give a wobble
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Agronomist_at_ia on 08/16/21 20:04 UTC
Oh I use plastics a lot. But some days the fish will not bite on plastics no mater what u do. So I always have some spikes/wax worms/mummy worms
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Mike J on 08/17/21 13:59 UTC
When the bite is tough on plastics I go to ice flies. I tie them on a #14 hook. A scud pattern with a tungsten bead head and the addition of a few deer hairs works incredibly well on neutral to negative bite days. And of coarse the best part is no live bait needed.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: efishnc on 08/17/21 19:07 UTC
Oh I use plastics a lot. But some days the fish will not bite on plastics no mater what u do. So I always have some spikes/wax worms/mummy worms

I agree there are days the fish will definitely hit live bait more than plastics, but on those tougher days, I'll either shrink my offerings or use a fly like MikeJ, and simply choose to be content with those I get on my artificials... I tend to hold to the understanding that fish are there to feed me, not for me to feed them. ;D
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: tacklebox07 on 08/17/21 19:44 UTC
Mike J
Would you please post a picture of your #14 scud fly, very interested in a pattern like that.  thanks
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Mike J on 08/17/21 21:25 UTC
Mike J
Would you please post a picture of your #14 scud fly, very interested in a pattern like that.  thanks

Sure thing.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Mike J on 08/17/21 21:27 UTC
Here's another
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Mike J on 08/17/21 21:29 UTC
This pattern works equally well.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: tacklebox07 on 08/19/21 20:24 UTC
thanks for the pictures, great looking flies. What hook is that, those are beyond my skill level. thanks
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Mike J on 08/19/21 20:47 UTC
I like a gamakatsu C12-BM but a regular dry fly hook works ok too.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: ctom on 08/20/21 08:43 UTC
Mike, are you using acetate floss to create the hard bodies? Nice looking jigs.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Lines on 08/20/21 09:20 UTC
Nice work as usual MikeJ. Those are awesome. I need to try those patterns.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: ctom on 08/20/21 09:42 UTC
I need to try those patterns.

Where do you ice fish down there? lol
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Lines on 08/20/21 09:45 UTC
Where do you ice fish down there? lol
Lol...use similar patterns for trout and to catch bait for catfishing. Bluegill and other panfish.
Title: Re: DOoska jig
Post by: Mike J on 08/20/21 21:35 UTC
Thanks guys. Tom, it's UV cured epoxy.