I gotta say that all though a cheap vise works great to start out with it would be very hard to get me to give up my much nicer rotary vice that I ty on now. As far as a magnifier I have one with the light built in I got at menards for like $30 and mounts right to my bench. I use it more for light placement than I do for the magnification. For me it feels weird to ty anything looking through it.