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Title: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: kevin on 07/02/17 08:59 UTC
Any one have a good recipe for this color? It is color changing .

Thnx
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: ctom on 07/02/17 09:12 UTC
Its a bleeder.

 http://pouryourownworms.com/17-Motor-Oil-changeable-2oz-3317X2.htm

It does make a very nice motor oil. Spike-It shows two motor oils that are both dyes and will also be bleeders. One is a brown and the other a greenish, neither indicate being a changeable in their descriptions. The M-F motor oil is a green going to brown-amber and is transparent. River walleyes and sauger in this area like the M-F product's color.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: kevin on 07/02/17 17:10 UTC
thank you

its a changeable with redish/ orange tint
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Edgecrusher on 07/06/17 16:21 UTC
Its a bleeder.

 http://pouryourownworms.com/17-Motor-Oil-changeable-2oz-3317X2.htm

It does make a very nice motor oil. Spike-It shows two motor oils that are both dyes and will also be bleeders. One is a brown and the other a greenish, neither indicate being a changeable in their descriptions. The M-F motor oil is a green going to brown-amber and is transparent. River walleyes and sauger in this area like the M-F product's color.

Spike its is changable as well, I use the 148 motor oil a lot, it pours green, and colour changes to an amber brown. The other one they have I have but haven't used yet.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Shaunm81 on 07/09/17 23:09 UTC
Hi guys was wondering about possibly putting some motor oil also but what all do I need to do this?I am new to all this soft bait stuff and was curious about putting together some together . Does Do it have the colorant id need to achieve this? Sorry to jump on Kevins thread but figure id go head and ask rather then make a new thread.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Mike J on 07/10/17 00:47 UTC
Do-it does sell X2 motor oil but it is not the changeable kind.  It also does not bleed.  If your looking for changeable motor oil you will have to look at one of the other manufacturers.  I'm pretty sure all the changeable colorants bleed.  The changeable motor oil I have doesn't bleed much if you don't go crazy with it.  I still take precautions with any bleeder and keep them separate to be sure they don't give me problems.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: ctom on 07/10/17 08:31 UTC
As Mike mentions here, the Spike-It and M-F motor oils will bleed if you really juice up the color. I lay chartreuse tails against the M-F bleeding color but it will take a whole summer of fishing to see much bleeding between the two colors. When I make any color that bleeds or may bleed I keep the baits in a small ziplock so they don't come in contact with a box full of different colors and I usually make only enough to fish for a week or two.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Shaunm81 on 07/10/17 14:04 UTC
Ok where is the X2 Motor oil colorant listed on the Do it site? I only see it in the essential series Motor oil colorant.  I will buy that if I have to but wonder how many drops of the essential series would i need and glitter color ? Also might sound like a stupid question but are you guys referring to by "Bleeder"? is it the colorant releases from the hot plastics on to the others. anyway thanks guys sorry all new to this soft bait stuff
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Slow Burn on 07/10/17 14:58 UTC
If the Motor Oil color is not listed on the site under the 2X is might temporarily out of stock. Check back in a few days on the site or you could send a message to one of the Do-It folks and find out when they expect it to be back in stock.  My personal opinion, I would wait for the 2X but to each his own.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: 2XL on 07/10/17 16:04 UTC
I use the essential motor oil colorant and have not noticed any bleeding with it. Then again, I keep the same colored baits together and have not done any multi colored baits with that particular colorant. It's not a changeable color but the fish don't seem to mind.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: ctom on 07/10/17 16:33 UTC
The X2 and Essential colors do not shift, of appear to change colors, hence the term changeable, nor do they bleed. They are a single color. Changeable colors are formulated different and have a nasty trail of bleeding, or allowing one color to stain of fade into another color. Lots of tackle trays of baits have been ruined by bleeding colors being stored openly with other colors.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Shaunm81 on 07/10/17 20:28 UTC
2xl, how many drops of the essential series motor oil colorant do you use to 4oz of plastic? Or what would be the correct amount of x2 colorant motor oil would i need?What color glitter ?Thanks
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: WALLEYE WACKER on 07/11/17 00:54 UTC
I use MF motor oil. I only pour in 1 cup amounts 25 drops or so. I do a transparent version with gold and black that works well for me.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Shaunm81 on 07/11/17 12:39 UTC
Okay so i should do  around 12 drops of the mf for 4oz of plastic ?Any glitter ?Or can leave it out?   Sorry to ask so many questions im probably starting to get on you guys nerves lol
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Mike J on 07/11/17 13:44 UTC
I've made motoroil with no glitter and it looks great. A lot of it has gold glitter.  I like the changeable kind myself. As far as how many drops I can't remember off hand but start with 4 see how it looks and keep adding until you get what you like.  My opinion is who cares what Berkeley motor oil looks like, make Shaunm81 motor oil and go catch some fish. 
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: ctom on 07/11/17 14:13 UTC
In 4 ounces I think you may need more than 12 drops of the mf but start there to see how dense the color appears. Like Mike has suggested, this is to YOUR preference so there's no right or wrong recipe. I leave my MO without glitter and I definitely like changeable. If you want some pizzazz, add the glitter you think will fire it up.

The Do-It and Essential MO colors are pretty straight forward deep amber colors. You could work up the intensity of the color you want then add green hi lite to give it a nice surface sheen of green that would shift as you move the bait around in different light or angles to light.

Most all of my go-to colors are home-brewed and are nothing at all like the so called factory or standard colors. We all see color differently and that is the true beauty of this hobby.....what you make is all yours.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Lines on 07/11/17 17:21 UTC
Sometimes I use glitter, sometimes not. I like a light transparent amberish motor oil with black and gold glitter. Close to new Pennzoil color. No nerves left to get on here Shaunm81.....lol. 2 oz. medium plastisol, 5 drops x2 motor oil, 1 drop  x2 flourescent yellow. .040 gold, .040 black as your eye likes it.

Sorry, should be 4 oz. plastisol.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: 2XL on 07/11/17 18:44 UTC
I use 6 drops of ES Motor Oil to 4oz plastic. But everyone has their own idea of what any given color should look like so you could add more or less colorant to get the color that YOU want.

I made some motor oil Mayflys the other day with a bit of gold and black glitter.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Lines on 07/11/17 19:09 UTC
Black and gold glitter seems to work well with motor oil. I've never tried copper glitter, but I think it would be good also.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: 2XL on 07/11/17 21:11 UTC
I used a small amount of the large flake glitter. I didn't want my baits to look like an underwater sparkler. LOL I want to try some large red flake too the next time I get a little time to cook up some plastic for myself.

Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Shaunm81 on 07/11/17 21:12 UTC
Thanks every one. I am not sure truthfully what im going to order as far as what motor oil to get. Ctom how does hi  lites work?add directly to the uncooked plastic or is there any certain way and amount to do this? I am also going to order some heat stabalizer how should thst be added? Should it be added after I inject and reheat?added into the still hot plastic or should I add after the plastic cools in the pyrex cup im not sure ? Anyway thanks
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Botanophilia on 08/06/17 10:47 UTC
I use x2 motor oil w/ green hilite and often with black and red flake. Brown being a pretty neutral color makes it really versatile, any of the hilites and glitters can work well. Ribbon tail worms I pair it with orange tails.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: ctom on 08/06/17 18:32 UTC
Shaunm81....

Dang man, I'm sorry I missed this question until just now, but put the hi lite in your plastic so it can work from the inside out, if that makes any sense for you. I'd start with a small amount, maybe the size of a match head, in 4 ounces of plastic. Depending on how dense or opaque the plastic color is you may want more or less. With the X2 colorant I'd try to keep the transparency there but still have a nice rich brown color then add green hi lites.
Title: Re: recipe for berkley motor oil?/
Post by: Shaunm81 on 01/18/18 17:40 UTC
Thanks Ctom Its ok and appreciate the help much appreciated. Sorry about renewing this thread its been forever im just now getting a chance to get time to post been really busy.