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Soft Plastic Bait Making => Color Cook Book => Topic started by: rucker on 07/24/17 19:51 UTC
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im looking for this shade of chartreuse! (http://custombaits.com/gallery/medium_345-240717194738.jpeg) any suggestions on what color to buy. i prefer non bleed colorant
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You could try the Essential series chartreuse offered here at Do-It....its less powerful than the X2 product most of us use, but you'd have to cut back on your drop count quite a bit maybe starting with 2 drops per 4 ounces of plastic. That bait has a really thin color.
This chartreuse is a MF colorant that's a no bleed and may help... http://pouryourownworms.com/23-Fluorescent-Chartreuse-non-bleed-2oz-3323X2.htm You'll likely have to start out thin with it too but maybe not as thin in the drop count as the Essential starting with maybe 4 drops per 4 ounces of plastic.
You could also try this Spike-It color but I think its a hair strong and won't mellow out for you.... https://www.ispikeit.com/product/805/chartreuse-181
Regardless of which colorant you use I would suggest working the color up without adding any glitter, which appears to be a string glitter in silver. If it wants to stay too bright, let it cool then chop it into small chunks and using a larger cup and another 4 ounces of raw plastic to your color along with a good shot of stabilizer and re-melt it using staggered heating sessions of 30 seconds and stirring between each shot of heat. I think this will get you pretty close. Once you get it to where you can live with the color add your glitter. Check your color by putting a thin smear of the plastic on the back of a mold until col then peel it off so you can compare to that bait in the picture you included.
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I reckon this one
https://www.ispikeit.com/product/258/chartreuse-dye-107
but it WILL bleed.
Toms one above is slightly more opaque but bleeds less
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i seem to end up with 2 or 3 of the same colors! and the bleeding doesent help! i have been ducking chartreuse for the bleeding alone. theres a few color baits that need chartreuse like watermelon red that i dont make because of it. waiting for my orders to pop up.
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I've tried several brands of chartreuse colorants and only use the x2 product now because I do mostly tail colors with chartreuse and don't need any bleeding issues....and I don't have any with the X2. As mentioned before, if I want a thinner or more transparent color of chartreuse I just chop up some scrap and put it in fresh plastic with some stabilizer and re-melt it. If it needs more thinning I let it cool and repeat and if it needs to be a little stronger I just add some more chopped scrap. I'm probably not getting what I make as transparent as what you show Rucker, but then I want my tail color to jump out, stand out, from the primary color of the bait so I make a pretty strong chartreuse. A thin, very transparent chartreuse can get lost next to a bolder color like the green/red flake you mention. What I have found in toying with the many other colorants that make chartreuse is that the more transparent they are, the more likely they are to interact and bleed. Sometimes its just better to settle for less transparency in the color. Its hard to tell from your picture but I am pretty sure I have thinned out the X2 chartreuse and made a transparent color very close to what's shown, but I didn't get there using raw components except the plastic.
Something to think about when bleeding occurs: often its not the color you suspect so much as it is the color it sits next to. Colorants are formulated using pigments and while the pigments may be fairly colorfast in their own element they may not stay that way when influenced by pigments and other agents found in a different and contrasting color....like a body color. Bleeding can look like it is beginning in the chartreuse when in fact its beginning in the other color because its made of components that won't play nice. And I'll throw this in here: the only X2 color I have ever had begin to bleed was the fluorescent orange and that happened only because I jack the color to the heavens for one order. I took the same exact plastic as scrap, cut it up and re-melted with new plastic to dilute it and never had another bleeding issue with it so I am convinced that we can force bleeding by over-loading a batch of plastic with colorant and that would apply to ANY brand of colorant in my opinion. More isn't always the answer or better.
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"And I'll throw this in here: the only X2 color I have ever had begin to bleed was the fluorescent orange and that happened only because I jack the color to the heavens for one order. I took the same exact plastic as scrap, cut it up and re-melted with new plastic to dilute it and never had another bleeding issue with it so I am convinced that we can force bleeding by over-loading a batch of plastic with colorant and that would apply to ANY brand of colorant in my opinion."
YES! I had this exact issue a few years ago and Jerry told me the exact thing. If you want a stupidly strong, eye-hurting, blaze orange, it's going to bleed.