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Title: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 4n2t0 on 11/28/25 17:27 UTC
Is anyone else experiencing major denting in the claws of the ES XL Hatchet Craw mold? High temp, low temp, heavy pressure, light pressure, absolutely nothing stops the denting. I now own 6 Do-It molds and I can say with some level of certainty that this mold seems to be defective in its design.
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 21xdc on 11/28/25 19:58 UTC
The arms are not big enough to draw more plastic to keep the claws full. So they shrink. Shoot cooler and hold pressure longer is the only way. A very hot mold will help.
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 4n2t0 on 11/29/25 08:14 UTC
Thanks for the reply and advice. Unfortunately, I have done all that already, and this mold is still a huge pain in the rear. I keep all my molds warm on a griddle. I've shot at ~325. I hold tons of pressure for a good amount of time. I've even brushed some worm oil over the cavities prior to shooting. Nothing ever works.

Don't get me wrong, I obviously love Do-It products, but this mold is a stinker. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 21xdc on 11/29/25 09:47 UTC
Shoot colder. Heat mold hotter.
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 4n2t0 on 11/29/25 10:08 UTC
If I shoot any colder, the plastic will be solid, lol, and my molds are plenty hot. Sorry, but that advice will not help this mold produce good-looking baits. Also, I'm clearly not the only one experiencing these problems. Every video, every single one, available of this mold on YouTube all shows baits with significant denting problems in the claws.

Oh well, thanks anyways.
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: ctom on 11/29/25 10:20 UTC
Single color or are you doing a twin injection? Are you topping off each  injection port on cavity ?
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 4n2t0 on 11/29/25 10:22 UTC
Single colour. That's all I do. All ports are topped off initially and re-topped off after the last cavity is filled.
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 21xdc on 11/29/25 10:30 UTC
Many other brand craws do this. It's only because of the thin arms not being able to draw more plastic through them as claws shrink. The hotter the mold, allows the arms to stay fluid longer... It's just the design in a craw mold. I can shoot at 310*F as long as I shot fast.... Try it. If you don't like any of my advice, I guess you just don't want to succeed.
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 4n2t0 on 11/29/25 11:00 UTC
Many other brand craws do this. It's only because of the thin arms not being able to draw more plastic through them as claws shrink. The hotter the mold, allows the arms to stay fluid longer... It's just the design in a craw mold. I can shoot at 110* as long as I shot fast.... Try it. If you don't like any of my advice, I guess you just don't want to succeed.

I'm assuming you mean 110C, correct? 110C = 230F? If so, I can't even get plastisol to come out of its gel phase at that temperature. You'll have to tell me exactly how you're shooting solidified plastisol!
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: ctom on 11/29/25 11:05 UTC
You'll have to tell me exactly how you're shooting solidified plastisol!

Cook it to the 350 to get full conversion then allow it to cool down before pulling it into the injector.
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 4n2t0 on 11/29/25 11:09 UTC
Cook it to the 350 to get full conversion then allow it to cool down before pulling it into the injector.

I'll try it. I have my doubts that I'll even be able to suck it up at 230, but I've been wrong many times before. I'll report back soon...
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 21xdc on 11/29/25 13:27 UTC
Sorry. I did mean heat past 350* and try injecting at 310*F or lower if you can....  Personally I don't care about any denting, Neither do the fish.
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 21xdc on 12/10/25 10:29 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVg00SCgcMY
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: anyfish on 12/10/25 20:30 UTC
Thanks for sharing the video.  I found it very informative.
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: Lines on 12/11/25 11:01 UTC
So did I. Very interesting.
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: Lamar on 12/11/25 15:43 UTC
What I do for baits that dent a lot is shoot the bait then slowly pour hot plastic in the spur as it draws it. This doest allow the spur to harden up and then no denting
Title: Re: Denting in Hatchet Craw Claws?
Post by: 4n2t0 on 12/22/25 15:58 UTC
Just a quick update...

Unfortunately, shooting at cooler temps (~310) didn't really help. I still got a lot of denting on the bulbous parts of the claws. Lamar's tip did help a bit (topping up the sprue with warmer plastic from the Pyrex cup instead of the injector) but the mold is just too much of a pain in the rear, so I've given up on it. I have a BTS craw that works well, and I'll just stick with that for now.

Thanks to all for the tips/help, I really appreciate it.