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Soft Plastic Bait Making => Soft Plastic and Plastic Baits - How To??? => Topic started by: mikesjet on 06/13/12 19:24 UTC
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Me again margret! I have been attempting to use a laminate plate with a 3.5" swimbait mold. If I hand pour the back the color I want then shoot the bellies it works out well. I got the plate and shoot the bellies and they come out fine. When I shoot the top color I get what you see in the pictures, the top color gets under the belly and ruins what I wanted.
Link to gallery pic: http://www.caneycreekmolds.net/gallery/443-130612182711.jpeg
I tried shooting the tops at 340*F instead of the 350 and that didn't help. I tried shooting a group of bellies and letting them cool then putting them back in, no luck. Shoot and leave them in, well that doesn't work either.
Any help would be awesome.
Thank you,
Mike
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Make sure the bellies are seated well in the cavities; especially in the area adjacent to the runner. And slow your injection speed down. A slow injection speed works for me.
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I was wondering if I was being too aggressive with the injection. I will have to try the slow approach.
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That's all it is. If you inject it fast it will lift them up. Slow it down and you won't have any problems.
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I just received this mold and was injecting to fast also. On the other hand it does make for some cool looking baits.
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Thanks to everyone.
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hmmmmm, that may have been what part of my problem has been when trying to shoot lams with the plate. I'll try slowing down and see if I get more consistent results. Thanks!
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I just received this mold yesterday still learning to use it but did so down on the injecting seemed to help.
(http://www.frogcapitalspeedway.com/fishbait/lam_Plate.jpg)
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MONEY!!!!!! That table rock color is NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Send me recipe!!!! :D
Jim
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You mean the Who Dat Color (Black and gold) Caught specks on it yesterday? Big Saints and Lsu fan the picture makes the LSU one look funky the green is not right in picture made it look more green than it is. I will try and up load the Who Dat onein gallery. That is one of the few I actually keep notes on. Let me go recreate it to make sure it is right.
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Used a popsicle stick to make sure the bellies were tight in the mold and slowed my injection and.....perfection. Thanks guys.
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You mean the Who Dat Color (Black and gold) Caught specks on it yesterday? Big Saints and Lsu fan the picture makes the LSU one look funky the green is not right in picture made it look more green than it is. I will try and up load the Who Dat onein gallery. That is one of the few I actually keep notes on. Let me go recreate it to make sure it is right.
LOL! I meant the LSU as that looks like a Table Rock color... The Who Dat is great too!
Thanks for sharing!
Jim
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OOPS! (LOL) I did not really like LSU one too much, spent some time working on the yellow today.
Guess I do not have a purple flake that does not bled. Have flake from 3 different places and everyone of them bleds into the color.
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let your plastic cool to about 300-325 then add glitter and shoot. may have to reheat a lot, use stabilizer.
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Still having problems shooting a complete tail using Laminate plate. Only get it to fill about 50% of the time.
I go ahead and shoot the other color and it normally fills the tail.
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I left you a message so we could talk through it, but I'll run through it here in case we don't talk today and you want to make some over the weekend.
1) Make sure your plastic is thoroughly heated to at least 350 degrees (try not to exceed 360-370).
2) Double clamp your mold in the front and back
3) First injection: inject the belly of the bait (I prefer the plastic temp to be 340 - 360 degrees)
4) Open mold and remove the spru and runner
5) Make sure bodies and tails are still seated well by gently patting them down. Also make sure there aren't tags totally blocking the vents (from your pic I don't this is as issue but you can check).
6) Close and double clamp the mold
7) Get your second plastic ready like in step one
8) Inject the back and tail *** your plastic needs to be hot*** as there is less space for it to move through. I would inject this between 350 and 360 (as the mold warms up you can lower this some). Start the injection slow to get the flow over the head and finish it at a normal speed to get it to fill out the tail (make sure you are clamped well).
This is all about viscosity and velocity. The lower your plastic temp is, the thicker the plastic is. On your second injection if you are slow shooting cool / thick plastic into a room temperature mold, it is going to setup before it ever gets to the end of the tail. That's why it's especially important to keep the second color hot / thin, inject slow over the head, then normal to fill it out. It's 90 plus degrees here now, but that is cold when compared to 350 degrees. As everything warms up from injecting it the process will go smoother.
Call me and we can also talk through it.
Thanks,
Jason
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Thank You Jason!
Work a 14 days on and 14 days off schedule. Work on a offshore drilling rig. Currently at work :(
May not be shooting the first color hot enough. Not really having a problem with the second color.
Brought a couple hundred of the baits to work with me thought that would be plenty but I was wrong
now have a waiting list of people asking for the Who Dat color bait. I did lighten up on the colors a
little bit. This keeps up going to have to order the Pro mold. :D