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Title: Bleeding Colors
Post by: Denny Welch on 07/05/12 14:59 UTC
Can anyone offer some information on bleeding colors or point me in the right direction to obtain some information?  It's pretty easy to determine which of CC M colors bleed because they tell you on the label.  The other manufacturers don't.  How, then, do we determine if a color is going to bleed?  Are some colors known to bleed and some not?  Does it matter who manufacturers the colorant?  If you put a solid color bait into a container with another solid color bait that bleeds, will it bleed into the non-bleeding color?  Is there any reference material, charts, etc. out there or is it all based on experience? 

Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: toadfrogbaits on 07/05/12 15:17 UTC
About the only thing I can say for sure a bleeding color will stain any other color . Tackle boxes counter tops , car dashes so look out if you let them get hot laying on something the wife is going to nail you for . My pump knot still hurts .
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: Jason on 07/05/12 16:05 UTC
It is not universal, or specific to a color, it depends what pigments are used to make the color.  Maybe to our own detriment, I've steered away from colors that bleed.  We are getting close to releasing the 12 new X2 colors and motor oil is one of them.  Motor oil is a notorious bleeder, but I think we got a good one that doesn't bleed.  Here are some of the other colors we are coming out with in this next batch:

Green Grass
Midnight Blue
Baby Bass
Violet
Tomato
Plum
Motor Oil
June Bug
Blue Fleck
Sweet Potato
Caney Creek Green
Pearl

After these we will start taking request.  We will first try and get a recipe for you using our existing colors.  If we can't do that and there is enough interest we will have the color made.

Jason
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: pjmcla on 07/05/12 18:48 UTC
Here is my experience ( for what it is worth ).  You have to check each color out.   
CCM is great about "disclosing" which colors bleed.  M-F Manufacturing does as well.  Lurecraft will verbally tell you on their colors if you call them ( at least they have with me a time or two).  Typically; colors in the reds / purples / Transparent Fluorescent colors and "color changing colors" are the ones to watch.  But; some blues and greens will bleed; and some reds and purples don't.  The best thing is to contact the seller and find out.  I try my best to avoid bleeding colors.  They are a pain as far as I am concerned. 
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: toadfrogbaits on 07/05/12 19:58 UTC
X2 on that brother .
Jason I like those colors . I'm thinking  your going to be the top gun before long .
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: mrex on 07/06/12 09:22 UTC
That's some good colors going to have to make a new order.
Not familiar with Caney Creek Green? Would like to see a silver X2
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: Dave on 07/06/12 12:54 UTC
Some excellent colors coming soon! Can't wait....
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: kipbass on 07/07/12 06:04 UTC
Jason, you wouldn't happen to be making tomato due to its success on Fork would you?  ;)
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: kipbass on 07/16/12 21:23 UTC
It is not universal, or specific to a color, it depends what pigments are used to make the color.  Maybe to our own detriment, I've steered away from colors that bleed.  We are getting close to releasing the 12 new X2 colors and motor oil is one of them.  Motor oil is a notorious bleeder, but I think we got a good one that doesn't bleed.  Here are some of the other colors we are coming out with in this next batch:

Green Grass
Midnight Blue
Baby Bass
Violet
Tomato
Plum
Motor Oil
June Bug
Blue Fleck
Sweet Potato
Caney Creek Green
Pearl

After these we will start taking request.  We will first try and get a recipe for you using our existing colors.  If we can't do that and there is enough interest we will have the color made.

Jason

Are we there yet?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: ctom on 07/17/12 07:10 UTC
Transparent chartreuse can be a bad one for bleeding. None of that with CCM in the X2 or that which is marked NB.

When I was on staff with Culprit Baits I liked several different plastics they marketed in what was called a "ghost purple".... a thin white pearl with violet hi lites. I used to take a Mister Twister 3" clear chartreuse twister tail and drop it in a full pack of drop-shot worms in the ghost and hang the package back up. Every week for maybe a couple months I'd mix the bag contents around and by the end of that 2 months the ghost baits were a nifty chartreuse. The chartreuse softened up the pearl even more and with the purple coming thru in the hi lites it was a color not seen in any market. Now I can replicate that color and don't have to fiddle with force-bleeding. I guess the point is that sometimes bleeding isn't such a bad thing if it is used in a controlled environmet to get something that works but cannot be bought.
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: kipbass on 07/17/12 07:16 UTC
Wanna buy a pint?  ;D
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: ctom on 07/17/12 20:21 UTC
Wanna buy a pint?  ;D

Nope. I was on staff with Mepps/Mister twister for a few years too and have half a closet wall of their products, including plenty of those bleeding chartreuse twisters.
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: pjmcla on 07/17/12 21:48 UTC
They were good to color Tom Mann's White grubs as well   :D.
Title: Re: Bleeding Colors
Post by: kipbass on 07/17/12 23:53 UTC
Nope. I was on staff with Mepps/Mister twister for a few years too and have half a closet wall of their products, including plenty of those bleeding chartreuse twisters.
Well dang and here I thought I had a customer who like bleeding chart! LOL ;)