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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: ctom on 02/09/13 20:51 UTC
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A while ago I made mention of uv enhancer that gets added to raw plastic and cooked in. I've been adding it to all of my clear colors and bright transparents as well as the whites and pearls. Yesterday I had a couple of my tackle trays out re-arranging things a little and they were left open on the floor in front of a large glass door. The sun peeked out for a bit and Ma happened to be right around there watering her plants and just stopped in her tracks and was staring at the boxes. lol She commented about how "strange" some of the plastics looked.....said they were "glowing almost". I walked over and took a peek myself and the baits with eyes and a cover dip and all of those that got the enhancer were in fact lit right up with a surface that shined and bluish/purplish hue. None of these had hi lites in them so that wasn't what we saw. It was the uv light from the sun that was bouncing back out of the baits themselves. Unreal.
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I love the "weird" stuff- and that is weird! Awesome in fact! I am going to have to buy some UV enhancer now.
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Mix up some in a clear eye dip and let it cool. Pull the set up plastic out of the cup and set it where the sun can hit it. Clear will never be the same for you after seeing this stuff.
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I have it in powder paint for jigheads, but on a clear plastic bait, I bet that would be cool looking. I may have to get some of that.
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I have used it in powder paint as well. It turns black into a almost dark blue. I'm not 100 percent sure it makes much of a difference if your bass fishing. As a lot of the strikes are reaction strikes. But for some of the pickier eaters like walleye I think it helps. I'm still in the testing stage on this one. I am sure that it catches more fisherman though.
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Lamar....I was thinking like you not all that long ago. I still haven't had a chance to lay baits using this product along side ones without it in a serious, practical, situation in open water. Open water is where something of this nature makes it or breaks it for me. Most fish are sensitive to uv light, meaning they can see that part of the spectrum very well while we, with our eyes, cannot. The comment about this product turning black almost a deep bluish suggests that it is doing exactly as it is supposed to do. The bluishness is uv light visible to us at our end of the spectrum. Personally I now am beginning to feel there is merit to the claims and to using it, but I also feel that if this stuff lights up like the claims some issues might arise from having too much surface area covered with it. The same senario can come about that shows up when using glow pigments that cause an aura around a bait that fish can see as way to large and will ignore. I'm sure that a happy medium can be found if that is the case, but it will take some trial and error fishing to figure it out.
Since I got my uv I have had the chance to use it three times on small plastics fishing sunfish under the ice. I have open water around that I can either pop the boat in or fish the shore, but finding time is a factor along with favorable weather. This would be walleye fishing primarily however crappies are generally available with the boat if one knows where to snoop for them. Crappies are super sensitive to uv and if the stuff gets crappies in 34 degree water to hit better than a bait not having the uv added to it then my world just got better.
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I must have missed this in a earlier post, but where are you getting this stuff from?
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Good point Tom. I guess being from Ohio where unless your fishing Lake Erie water is stained to muddy in most our lakes. The UV just doesn't seem to be a factor. The bass fisherman around here use everything including the kitchen sink. And every color they can get there hands on. I'm 54 years old and I think play a smarter game. It doesn't matter what you throw. Find what you like and put it in front of the fish in a matter in which he'll hit it. Colors ? If it's real muddy go black and blue and maybe a rattle if more clear go green. Everything else is in the fisherman's head.
I do believe that the UV would work better on walleye and crappies. I took some last year to Canada. We normally catch 100 walleyes a day there and did the same last year. Sort of hard to tell when fishing is like that. And spoils it to the point I could really care a less to fish for them around here.
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Last year my co-angler and I was fishin a tournament and started using the 4.5" brush hog (CCM) after about 2 hours and nothing happening I switch to a prototype of the brush hog with UV enhancer in it and started boating fish. It was the same color I was using prior to the switch but with UV enhancement. I caught 9 fish to co-anglers 1 then he asked if he could use 1 of them. He then started boating fish. So in short I have become a believer in UV enhancement in certain lakes in my area. Call me greedy but I do NOT sell these.
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I'm going to say here that Ron Don put me onto this stuff. I didn't find it on my own so if credit goes anywhere it goes to him. I'm just like all of you others that are always looking for that "something else" that changes the way things click. With the feed-back now I am starting to think Ron put me onto something good.
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Are you guys just pouring some out of the spray bottle and mixing it into the raw plastisol or is there a different product I missed?
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I get mine at www.ispikeit.com. They really don't have a dosage listed, so in a 6 to 8 ounce batch I drop in 12 drops. In a couple pm's about this stuff I have suggested giving the bottle a good shake to loosen up the product. Also, this stuff comes out of the dropper in LARGE clumpish drops....don't hold the bottle over your cup because you may get a surprise. I add just a hair of raw plastic to a shot glass and add the uv to that, stir it a bit and dump it in. I have noticed some reluctance to the uv wanting to blend into cold plastic. You can either heat the raw plastic up to about 320 degrees and give it its intial stir and add the uv at this point, or you can add it cold and it will incorporate as the plastic heats.
And Jeff, this is an entirely different product from the powder or the spray/dip. This is formulated specifically for adding to these plastics and nothing else.
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I remember it taking me a while to find it on their site when it was mentioned in the last thread, here's the direct link. http://www.ispikeit.com/Store/p-320-uv-glo-130.aspx (http://www.ispikeit.com/Store/p-320-uv-glo-130.aspx)
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Hey Tom , did you buy the aerosol or the dip ? ..... I'm guessing the dip ???.?.??
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The above link takes you to the product made for inluding in plastisol. Aerosol and dip would be for using on finished lures.
It took me awhile to find it originally because it's NOT under the UV-Glow page, but under the Lureworks->Pigments/dyes section.
Jerry, since Component Systems has UV Blast, any chance we'll be seeing a UV additive for plastics?
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Got it !!!!!! Thank you very much !!!!!
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The above link takes you to the product made for inluding in plastisol. Aerosol and dip would be for using on finished lures.
It took me awhile to find it originally because it's NOT under the UV-Glow page, but under the Lureworks->Pigments/dyes section.
Jerry, since Component Systems has UV Blast, any chance we'll be seeing a UV additive for plastics?
More likely a HUGE chance...
Jerry
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Jerry , are you telling me to wait to get it from here ????
because I like everything else I get from here , and am confident in using CCM/DO IT products
any time frame????
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I don't have a time frame, but I'm pretty sure it's been actively discussed, and I'm relatively certain it will happen. It's just a matter of getting it right before we throw it out there to the masses. I'll let you know what's happening as soon as I get more information.
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Thanks Jerry, I'll save my pennies. Hopefully CCM will have some hilites by that time too.
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It wouldn't surprise me a bit if that wasn't part of the package as well. Please be patient, and we will keep Y'all posted.
Thanks,
Jerry
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I am about to go shoot some Wutz Its and want the UV stuff in there for Saturday. I am tempted to just pour a little bit of the CS stuff into a small batch of plastisol and see if it works. I think it's oil based, so it should work.
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X2 on the HiLites!!! I've learned a whooole lot over the last 2 months or so, and now see that HiLites are what's missing from my stash of components. I've mixed alot of batches of some CLEAN colors since I've been doing this, but the HiLites are another Ball Game. If You just want that "pearling" on the "skin", HiLites are the answer...thank You, Mr. Tom Sir!
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Jeff -- I think the CSI uv enhancer lure overcoat is water based. Jerry might could clear this up. Be very careful.
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The liquid Seal-Coat with UV Blast IS a water based product, but the UV Blast Spray bottle is an acetone based product. That makes it dry quickly and makes it convenient. The Powder Coat with UV Blast is the same active ingredient mixed with a clear powder coat. Probably won't hurt anything except for the added "gunk" that you may not want in your plastic. Any of these products are not really intended to be mixed with plastic. CS Coatings is working on the right mix of the active ingredient with inert ingredients to make it user friendly for what we're doing.
I've already sent Jeff a PM to alert him of this. He'll be fine.
Jerry
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bought this today..reports are it's good stuff, we'll see
http://www.ispikeit.com/Store/p-320-uv-glo-130.aspx
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can't wait to see how it works out for you...
Thanks,
Jerry
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Here's pic showing some sun involved with the uv enhancer. The minnows aren't a Caney mold but this pic shows what goes on real nice. All of the plastic and colorants are Caney products, except for the enhancer.
(http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss184/crappietomtackle/480f2724-0e12-4ab1-a269-699629aa7a03_zps48840d25.jpg)
The top two baits are made for this with left-over plastic and both have the same plastic batch shot into the bellies. This thin white pearl has uv enhancer in it. The bait in the center is shaded somewhat by being where it is, while the top bait gets just a shot of sun. The bait in the middle actually depicts the "real" color very nicely...the color you'd see in your house or under artificial lighting. The bait at the top is being hit by low angle sunlight [pic taken at 7:30 am this morning]. If the sun were high overhead, the pearl would be so bright you'd have a tough time looking at it. The pearl here has no additional pearl or hi lite added nor has it any glitter. However if you look carefully at it you may be able to pick up on just a hint of violet on the bottom edge of the top bait....that's the violet part of the ultraviolet coming out of the enhanced plastic.
I have a chartreuse transparent thats been enhanced with this product that does just about the same thing in sunlight and if I can round up some scrap from that request I'll shoot another pic using it to help show more of how it works.
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I ordered some UV powders that are invisible till they hit Black lite they will change from a white powder to the color of choice once I get them and have time to shoot a few I will post pics
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Man....even a little bit of this stuff makes a washed out white a "mega" white. The pearl used here is thin if you see it in hand.
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Can anyone tell me if the UV has increased there bites/hook ups as to not using it? You guys and your pictures have me thinking about getting some to add to my bass baits for this year.
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hey Tom ....how many drops per cup are you using ? or what other formula are you using ? I just got my UV~INHANCER in todays shipment and want to get it in some baits
Thanks
EZ
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Give it a good shake and then 10 drops to a 6 ounce batch is what I use. If your product is anything like mine they are going to be big drops. Go slow until you get used to how it handles.
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Give it a good shake and then 10 drops to a 6 ounce batch is what I use. If your product is anything like mine they are going to be big drops. Go slow until you get used to how it handles.
Ctom is your UV from I spike it? I just ordered some so I'm guessing its liquid form.
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Yep.