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Soft Plastic Bait Making => New Releases => Topic started by: Jerry V on 04/12/13 11:31 UTC
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Boy do those look good !! Do they impact the action of the plastic much?
When will they be available? ( I assume they are something Do-It is going to sell. )
Ctom will ask - No purple ?!?
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Those look awesome!
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Boy do those look good !! Do they impact the action of the plastic much?
When will they be available? ( I assume they are something Do-It is going to sell. )
Ctom will ask - No purple ?!?
Yes Paul, we will be selling them. They will be available very soon and will be introduced along with the pearl/hi lite products. I have noticed that they do make the plastic a little harder or tougher but not to a severe degree.
Thanks,
Jerry
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Thanks for the info. Maybe soft plastic plus glow gets close to medium plastic. Probably heavier though. Looking forward to it's release as well as the hi-lites.
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That's awesome, Jerry you could be the cause of my divorce.
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Jerry, as X2 is different from other colors, are the Super Glo products more intense than other Glo powders on the market??
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Jerry, as X2 is different from other colors, are the Super Glo products more intense than other Glo powders on the market??
I guess I can't really say as these are the only Super Glo Powders I've ever used. They come from Component Systems and have much of the same technology as their Super Glo Powder Paints and liquid Vinyl Paints. I find them very effective.
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payday is today, what is the timeframe for these?
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Usually glow powder is rated by length of glow time. Do you have that info? I would take it that super glow would be brighter and glow longer than regular glow.
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I don't know that time will be much of an issue, Ronnie. It looks like those things will get bit as soon as they hit the water. LOL
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Usually glow powder is rated by length of glow time. Do you have that info? I would take it that super glow would be brighter and glow longer than regular glow.
Not unlike Pro-Tech Powder paint "Super Glow" refers to the fact that the product glows the same color as the name. (orange glows orange, blue glows blue etc.) Their standard Glow colors simply glow a phosphorescent yellowish/green, similar to some of the glow in the dark toys some of us played with as kids. I'm not immediately aware of the "glow time" but could likely get that information from C.S. Coatings.
I'd rather ask them than to wait around for this stuff to stop glowing.
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Ctom will ask - No purple ?!?
WHAaaaaaaaaaaaa.... No PURPLE? lol
I didn't get to see this glow product when I toured the plant a couple weeks back but I did get to see the hi lite in some test plastics up close and personal and all I can say is they do a very nice job of doing what they are supposed to do. Its nice to see the folks at Do-It not sitting on their haunches in getting some serious components put together for the plastics people.
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Sorry about the purple Tom, I really am. I'll see what I can do to put them to work on it.
Just to clarify... the mix on these started with a batch of plastic colored with X2 fluoro colorant and a corresponding glow color powder added to make it glow in the dark. It is not a colorant but an additive to add glow to the existing color. You are looking at approximately 1/8 tsp. Super Glow Powder per 6 oz. plastic.
Jerry
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1 question and an opinion....
*is there a niteglo color, a kind of off white w/greenish tint?? it's a great color.
* and some of those colors will great additives nite (and day) fishing to make minnow/baitfish looking tint (green, blues and purple when it comes)
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Pat,
I think maybe the "niteglo" color you're talking about is their standard glow overcoat that mimics the glow in the dark color we're used to seeing on Frisbees and other toys. I'm pretty sure they have that technology but I'm not sure it will be introduced with these first offerings. It may come to the party a little later with purple as a date, I don't know.
There is no doubt that these colors will help set a bait apart from everything else in murky water, under low light conditions, or at extreme depth. Along with the UV Blast they will be another tool in the bait making tool box.
Jerry
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may be...I buy it now from spike it, has greenish tint, off white in day. interesting that it is THE best selling color in shrimp type plastics (DOA)...and the laminates you can do with it, endless..as would be the case with your new colors.
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Not unlike Pro-Tech Powder paint "Super Glow" refers to the fact that the product glows the same color as the name. (orange glows orange, blue glows blue etc.) Their standard Glow colors simply glow a phosphorescent yellowish/green, similar to some of the glow in the dark toys some of us played with as kids. I'm not immediately aware of the "glow time" but could likely get that information from C.S. Coatings.
I'd rather ask them than to wait around for this stuff to stop glowing.
Thanks for the info Jerry! Guess I'm just a big dummy I always thought the super glow were suppose to glow longer! Oops.
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Jerry, is that a new claw design for the mad dad claw that's being challenged?
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RonDon....
There was actually a bunch of confusion about this several years back when the glow-in-color pigments became available. About the same time frame an enhanced glowing capability [prolonged glow] became available to the plain old glow and the term "Super Glow" became fudged in the industry. Lots of ice tackle makers were selling baits as "super glow", yet they only glowed that eerie greenish white but had a much longer glow period or charge time. Other tackle makers advertised their wares as "super glow", but their labeling stated "glows red", or "glows blue".
Another misconception was the color of the pigment in its refined state. Red glow wasn't necessarily red in color in the daylight, nor blue blue or purple purple.
An interesting factoid here. All of these glow in color colors are derived from natural elements found in Mother Earth. Whether we have synthesized them I don't know for sure.
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Jerry, is that a new claw design for the mad dad claw that's being challenged?
That looks to be the caney creek craw.
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That looks to be the caney creek craw.
Yep you're correct, I just looked through the store. Thought there was a resolution already.
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Jerry, is that a new claw design for the mad dad claw that's being challenged?
We have not and don't plan to change the claw on the Mad Dad. That is the Caney Creek Craw.
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Ok, thanks.
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Jerry, this is the powder/ color I was speaking about. Not sure what you meant by top coat. this is a great color.
http://www.ispikeit.com/Store/p-342-natural-glow-128.aspx
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What I meant by "top coat" is that is a technology that C.S. Coatings has been using in their paint line up as a Glow Overcoat meaning that it is clear to the eye allowing you to see the color underneath but glows a greenish color when charged with light. This product can likely be applied to a powder to be placed in plastic no doubt.
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Does this look a little like it Pat? This is a standard glow that we will be adding with the other glow colors as well. I told them to count you in for 10 pounds to start so they will be bringing plenty of it in. ;)
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Jerry --- Is this clear plastic with only the glow powder added in the pictures ( on 4/15 @ 14:10 )? Looks like the powder creates a milky coloring. Not unattractive; but not clear like the UV enhancer.
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Yes Paul, that is added to clear plastic and nothing else, giving it a "milky" color and glowing greenish/yellow.
The UV Blast powder does not affect the transparency of the plastic but does not "glow" but rather it reflects ultra violet light. It does not have to be "charged".
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this is it. Jerry...don't know if u can see it. Your colors are very good. The basic niteglo powder that gives a slight greenish tint is the fav here. Looks like an off white look, great day or nite Also great with firetails, laminates.
http://www.basspro.com/Offshore-Angler-Scamper-Shrimp/product/8371/
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Jerry,
am I missing them in the store? I do not see the glow powders :o
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They are not yet at the site but should be in a week or so.
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Jerry, what type of light source should I use when wanting to take pictures in the dark of the lures with the glow powder? Black Light, etc?
When I place my worms up to a regular light then turn the light off, the lure glows pretty good, but my camera don't see it and the entire picture is black
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I have had good luck shooting pictures both ways, with regular light as well as black light. I did find out that some colors seem to be brighter with one light source and others with another light source. If you have a mid to high end digital camera, you can also adjust settings, one of them being shutter speed or exposure time
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Try turning off the flash and mount the camera on a tripod for stability. Set up everything in the light and focus so that everything is ready to go, then charge the plastics in the light, slide them back under the camera, turn out the lights and push the shutter release very softly and hold.
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Mr. Ryan took those pics and the pics at the web site. We might get him to chime in pertaining to settings, but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with shutter speed. If you charge those baits in the sunshine you will notice a big difference as well.
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ok, thankyou all for your help
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My only 2 cents that I can chime in with is if you are using a DLSR set your camera to manual focus. that way when you turn the light out the auto focus doesnt try and focus. Also if you can extend your shutter time I would do that also.. Also agree with Tom that I would use a tripod, and a shutter release..
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Not regarding pictures, but I shot up my sample colors in an ice bait using the Do-It glow pigments this morning/ I shot the glow as mixed into clear without any colorant and then mixed in the corresponding colors and re-shot them. When I drove to the bait shop they were on the van seat in the sun with the window down so they got one heck of a charge. The shop had some customers at the counter when I laid the package down. Lets just say I'm thinking that the shop may have some good customer base this winter. Everyone was properly impressed. In plain plastic the colors are nice. With the colorant.....unreal.
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That's cool Tom... in a word this stuff is "effective" and there's nothing like some good 'ol sunshine to make it pop. Those who see it at work are most times flabbergasted to some degree. There just aren't that many glow plastics out there on the market right now, and it catches some people off guard a little I suppose. I would imagine the ice fishermen, of anyone, would most sincerely appreciate it.
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Glow ice baits have been hot for several years but the glow in color stuff in plastic is new frontier almost. Very few commercial entities ventured into it. The glow in color jigs got off to a decent start about 8 years ago, but even then there were some issues with the pigments and application process. Now China pretty well has that part figured out. The plastics though? There are some small companies that have latched onto this concept and have done well. Personally I have been doing super well with a small, lithe, ice plastic [2 plastics actually] using the glow in color pigments. The Do-It pigments take the cake though. Mixed with plastic of the same color the glow plastics I mentioned here have a whole new dimension. The guys in that shop this morning had mouths simply hanging open. If I'd have had 500 baits I could have sold them all in one stop....that's no bull. I handed out some cards and already I have had one of the guys e-mail me with questions.
That's one of the beauties of this little hobby is that we can get in the market before the big companies can. Custom Jigs and Spins from your neck of the woods has some glow in color plastics but those are of Chinese manufacture and I know for a fact that for the glow capabilities that we hobby shooters have at our hands, the Chinese cannot compete nor can they offer the quality of the glow products we can make.
My other source for glow pigments is another great place that offers the hobbyist some phenomenal pigments but honestly the Do-It pigments sit at the top of the pile in my book. I just wish you had a deep, rich, purple like the other place has.
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mix red and blue?
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Won't work Brent. These are dry pigments and will not blend like wet colorants.
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Could you
1)use blue glow in a red bait?
2)use red glow in a blue bait?
3)use red glow in a very light purple bait?
you know the whole colored filter in front of a flashlight thing?
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To some extent you might get a purple out of it. I'm not worried Brent as I have some of the purple glow pigment from another manufacturer that works great on its own in clear plastic, but the color gets muted if its added to a purple plastic. And by muted I mean it just isn't as bright as it is in clear.