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Soft Plastic Bait Making => New Releases => Topic started by: Jason on 05/08/11 21:03 UTC
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Here is a pic of our new Swim Bait. Please let me know any feedback you have. I just need to fix the top of the tail, I cut it short - just aesthetics. It is 6" has a hook slot on the bottom and a small one on top (between the dorsal fins). It is very weedless and has a nice tight wiggle on a slow retrieve and flaps like crazy if you burn it. It is laid in the mold so you can easily hand pour laminates (and to make sure the fins fill out completely). Any suggestions / comments would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jason
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I'd eat it :D
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Wow that thing is killer looking.
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Does that have a hook slot?
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Does that have a hook slot?
It has a hook slot on the bottom, and one on the top. The one on the top is shallow, just enough to lay the hook in. There are two dorsal fins right next to each other to allow for the top slot. The way we did the hook slots is really cool. It holds the hook really well, but releases well also. Besides the action, this is probably one of the best features of the bait. It is very functional.
The bait is 6", it fishes well with or without a weighted hook, I would use a 5.0 - 7.0 hook.
You will be able to confidently fish this bait places you wouldn't consider throwing most.
Jason
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On the hook, I am assuming that you mean an EWG??? Looks like a straight shank might just be to tight..... Next deal will be to see how the bait "folds" when you set the hook on a fish. Sometimes the big wad of plastic can get in the way of the hook point. I think with the duel hook slots, you should be set!
Looking good!!!!
Jim
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4 inches!!!!!!!!!! You guys down south and your monster baits, geeez....pretty unique looking swim bait. I would like a 4" version. Thank you.
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Reduce the rear fins to a minimum
I would use a larger eye - Not sure if the area is recessed or not
Would like to see the tail in full view/different angles
A video would be nice to see the action
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Agree with fatty patty on the eyes....also would like to see more angles and a video.
How is here a hook slot on top if there are fins there??
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Reduce the rear fins to a minimum
I would use a larger eye - Not sure if the area is recessed or not
Would like to see the tail in full view/different angles
A video would be nice to see the action
Why would you reduce the rear fins? Just for looks?
The eyes are just a flat space and will accommodate a much larger eye.
I'll have more pics and video once it's finalized.
Thanks,
Jason
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Agree with fatty patty on the eyes....also would like to see more angles and a video.
How is here a hook slot on top if there are fins there??
There are 2 fins on the top, right next to each other, the hook slot is between them.
When I post more pics you will see how they look.
Jason
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Duel hook slot is a BIG plus. If you have tried to fish a soft plastic swim that doesn't have a hook set-up already embeded you know how tough it can be to rig the bait trying to skin hook just right on the top.
While there might be some cosmetics that we might want to change, I am trying to focus on the action as that really will be what the fish care about. If the action is good, I think the fish will eat no matter what the bait is like.
Jim
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Ahhhh two fins with the hook slot between them, great idea!!! Any thoughts on a 4 inch??
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Can't wait to see more pics and video.
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I caught a nice chuncky 4 lber this weekend on a swimbait. I'm sure it would have thumped the one in the picture also!
I like the profile of the bait, it looks good. I'm interested to look at the hook slots and how they are positioned. Sounds like a cool idea. Maybe you can take a picture of a bait that you have rigged. I think that will really help us.
As with any swimbait, it's all about the tail action. If the bait can stay true and not roll on a slow or fast retrieve then that's where you want to be.
Looking good!
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Ahhhh two fins with the hook slot between them, great idea!!! Any thoughts on a 4 inch??
I thought we would do a 4, 5 and 6". Just have to start somewhere.
Tight lines!
Jason
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Quick update...
The SB has passed it's latest test with flying colors. The action is great, really great. It has a very unique action and swims really well weighted and unweighted, the bait is very weedless, it takes a stinger hook well (still pretty weedless), and the fish love it. The test bait I brought up to the house last night after fishing looked like hamburger. It was done...
The test bait I went down with this morning didn't make it home. It was thrown but the fish was landed.
So what's next? It combo pours great (hand and injection), but on a pure injection I have one dent that I am trying to get rid of. I know exactly what the problem is, but that doesn't make it easy to fix. I'm running a potential fix now. We'll see how it goes.
I'll keep you posted.
Tight lines!
Jason
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YEAH!!!!!!!!!!
Jim
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Well, the dent is still there, but the fish don't mind. I have a few more ideas, I'll give them a go tomorrow. I figured since I'd been catching fish and just talking about them I would take my phone with me. All of the testing so far has just been off our dock. We haven't even really worked the lake over with it yet.
The baits were compliments of JR. He knows just how the fish here like them.
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Tight lines!
Jason
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Sweeeeetttttttt!!!!!!!
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Yep... That is what I like to see, RESULTS on the water!!!!! Talk is cheap but fish in the boat is money!!!
I'll test all the "dented" baits down here in South GA!!!! :D :D :D :D
Jim
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Put me down as the Michigan tester!
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Jason, if you need a left coast tester, I am your man!!! Great job!
Wojo
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Nice!!!!!!!
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We went out this A.M. to try the SB again in the boat, and again it produced. I had a couple just follow it, and a few bumps, but overall the fish were hitting it like a hammer.
Here are a couple pics. Diane took some video I'll upload and post it as well.
Tight lines!
Jason
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Looking very goods.
If you need another tester, I would gladly help you.
Just chuck one in with the order I just placed. LOL :D :D ;D
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Here is the video.
http://youtu.be/EsSaUq_UQSM (http://youtu.be/EsSaUq_UQSM)
Jason
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Cool vid!
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Man that looks fun!!!!
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That is a great tight swimming action...looks very good...hope the 4 and 5" will swim the same. If so, I'm in!!
What rod action and pound test were you using in the video? How heavy was the weighted hook?
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That is a great tight swimming action...looks very good...hope the 4 and 5" will swim the same. If so, I'm in!!
What rod action and pound test were you using in the video? How heavy was the weighted hook?
Medium heavy with a fast tip, and just a medium heavy on the other.
On one rig I was fishing it with just a hook, thats the first part of the video. On the second one I was using a 1/4 oz hook/weight.
I just got the 6/0, 7/0 and stinger hooks in today. I will knock out an easy lead mold for them.
Jason
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I was using 15 lb floro...
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Does it swim the same with or without a weighted hook?
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It swims the same. The only difference, with no weight, it will act like a wake bait if you don't let it sink a little or hold your rod tip low. Will post more video of rigging and action once the mold is finalized. It's very unique, the action is spot on. It truly looks like a real fish in the water. I have several swim baits that cost from 10 to 50 dollars and am very confident this bait will be significantly more productive.
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Any idea what it is going to cost, I need to start saving some money. ;D
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Any idea what it is going to cost, I need to start saving some money. ;D
It depends on what I have to do to it still. However, it is a very detailed bait. We will keep it as low as we can but it's not going to be like a craw or creature bait. Overall it will be in line (or less) than the value of the baits it makes.
Jason
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That bait does look good. I have been looking for a swim bait that I could fish deep for walleye. That one has great possibilites. About how long do we have to save up our change before it hits the market? I hope youve got a lot of those molds made up!
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That bait does look good. I have been looking for a swim bait that I could fish deep for walleye. That one has great possibilities. About how long do we have to save up our change before it hits the market? I hope you've got a lot of those molds made up!
I'm cutting what will hopefully be the final prototype now... The bait didn't change, just the mold configuration.
Based on the fish we've been catching on it I can't wait to get them in your hands. I'm 110% serious when I say it's better than any "commercial" swim bait I've used. Even the high dollar hard ones.
I hope to have it out soon, but won't rush it just to get it out there. I want you to have the time of your life fishing this bait.
Jason
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Are they done yet??.........Are they done yet??... :D..Looks great Jason.
Do you use the super soft palstic or the medium/regular plastic when pouring those? That is going to be an injections mold right?
Wojo
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Are they done yet??.........Are they done yet??... :D..Looks great Jason.
Do you use the super soft palstic or the medium/regular plastic when pouring those? That is going to be an injections mold right?
Wojo
I've been using either MF Regular or the Caney Creek Crystal Clear - Regular. The 7" Carrot and 7" Skinny Carrot are done and just need to be put on the site. The SB is being tested more today. If all goes well it will be done and we'll just need a day to run some for inventory before we put them on the site. Let's hope the testing goes well...
Jason
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They are done! We are shipping the pre-orders this week. JR already shot the baits for photos - AWESOME BAITS!. I will get the site updated and make them available as a regular product later in the week. I also want to shoot a quick video about the versatility, injecting and rigging.
I am super happy with everything about this bait. I hope you find it as enjoyable as I do to use and fish with.
I am going to take a short break and focus on a couple other molds before starting the 5" and 4".
Tight lines!
Jason
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Hey Jason,
Did you round off the nose in the final production model?
Bo...
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Just a tad so it would take a screw lock (I would have to double check but I think it was 1/10th of an inch). In the pic it may look more different than it is because it ha a 3/8" eye on the production one vs. a 1/4" on the early version.
Jason
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Jason; What is the weight of the bait without a hook?
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.8 oz.
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Hey Jason,
I just received the SB mold. It looks awesome!!! I have no idea how a CNC machine works but the cavity looks very intricate.
It really appears you have created fish catching bait.
I can't wait when the garage is organized and I can inject my first one.
Thanks.
Bo...