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Title: Messing With Their Head
Post by: BareKnuckleJigs on 11/29/13 19:27 UTC
We sometimes mess with fishes' heads.  We try to feed them a Crazy Critter called a Creature.  We might throw a Black Buzzbait or Spinnerbait at night...HAHAHA.  We may even throw a Crawfish-patterned Crankbait...???  We flat-out mess with their heads, and it works.  On Bear's site, there's a Clear Frog...it REALLY got me thinking.  All these aspects went through my head, then the reality of small fish pecking at the spot on the water where my line breaks the surface followed those thoughts.

MOST of my Frog Fishing is in "mostly open" water, nowhere near any slop, but I try to associate most of the Frogs Track to some sort of cover, but this is definitely not always the case as I've fished Open Points (and other open areas) resulting in major Frog Strikes.  Why not, in Clear Water during the daylight hours, throw a Clear Frog?  Any other Clear bait would generally be the same, but it wouldn't produce the commotion (agitated disturbance), noise and wake that a Frog will.  I'm going to shoot up a batch of Clear Croakers ASAP, then marinate them so they'll be ready with the other colors, come about March.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: MO QWACK on 11/29/13 19:45 UTC
At times clear Zara spooks and tiny tarpetoes are very good so I don't see why that wouldn't work
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Lamar on 11/29/13 20:07 UTC
Clear tarpetoes have been out for years. This is something I used when I was a kid. Maybe 40 years or more ago. Bass fishing has always been about reaction strikes. If the bass knew what it was they wouldn't hit it. Oh wait a minute, that's fishing in general. But more true in bass or a preaditor type fish. They hide seek and attack. The more time you give them to think about it the less they will attack. The longer I fish bass the more I have caught that didn't know what they were hitting. It's all reaction and then it's to late.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: BareKnuckleJigs on 11/29/13 20:11 UTC
I definitely agree, Fella's.  I've used Clear Hardbaits, Clear Floats, but I can't shoot those.  I've got 1 or 2 Clear ChugBugs that I break out sometimes, but that's rare.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: DF on 11/30/13 05:34 UTC
  When I'm catching fish on a bait I often wonder, is it the color, the profile, the action, the presentation, what is getting them to bite? If you had a clear version of that bait you could at least rule out color.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Muskygary on 11/30/13 07:04 UTC
Then, of course, you have the clear baits with color patches on them. I'm talking about the "bare naked" series in reef runners; a very good walleye bait. Is it the flash of color or the clear patch that gets the fish?
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: BareKnuckleJigs on 11/30/13 09:32 UTC
I agree here, as well, and often wonder the exact same.  I'm probably going to cook a small batch in just a little while, once the sun warms the shop a little.  Maybe I'll do a little something different with the scraps from the batch, to add a little touch of color, or maybe a Loud Color out of the scraps...Blaze Orange/Chartreuse maybe?  Maybe color the scraps bright, and add that as a touch of color just where the Hook Point will be, and shoot another batch of Clear frogs with the bright "target patch"...hmmmm.

Edit: Or maybe I'm really getting too "technical" now.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: pjmcla on 11/30/13 11:50 UTC
I would try some colored feet on a clear body; but I favor two color baits.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: ctom on 11/30/13 11:50 UTC
Never "too" technical when it comes to creativity.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: BareKnuckleJigs on 11/30/13 14:39 UTC
Mr. Paul, I did think about the feet in a 2nd color, then I thought about the "target patch" nearer the hook point.  I've been heavily considering some 5mm (3/16") Black Spots for Eyes, as well.

MO and Lamar brought up good points about the Clear Hardbaits, but I think a Clear-based Frog is a bit different than those...maybe different enough to test Your gear, as the Hardbaits can tend to be a bit White, but a Clear Soft Plastic Frog may be closer to water-clear.  SHEESH...I'm goin' make a small batch.

And Roger on'nat, Mr. Tom.  I guess that's part of why we're here!  Little innovation without being technical...?
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: smalljaw on 11/30/13 17:03 UTC
One of my deadly topwater river smallmouth baits is a clear Dying Flutter, I don't know how the fish even see it but they hammer it and very seldom do they miss so yeah, I think a clear frog would be something to give a shot!!
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Muskygary on 11/30/13 17:10 UTC
LOL!! I take a break from the computer and go outside to get the mail. Find the In-Fisherman magazine in the mailbox. Open it up and what do I see, a article on "The clear connection" ice fishing panfish with clear plastic baits. One of the baits that is talked about is the "Domination Fry" by Micro Spoons!! It's a good article that I thought I'd give everyone a heads up on.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Chuckleberry FIN on 12/05/13 18:59 UTC
I haven't tried clear frogs.... yet.   
But these posts have inspired me to try it.  I had thought about very , very light, translucent watermelon this summer.  But I never got around to trying it.  But I think I might go out to my shed this Saturday and try to make a few "GHOST" frogs. 

And hey, if they don't work..... you can always melt them down and add color to them.   
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: pjmcla on 12/05/13 19:04 UTC
Or just glow for night fishing.  Two color glow?
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Jerry V on 12/05/13 19:07 UTC
And hey, if they don't work..... you can always melt them down and add color to them.

And THAT... is what is so cool about making your own baits.  Welcome to the forum Mr. FIN.  We're all glad you are here.  Make yourself at home and enjoy.

Jerry
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: BareKnuckleJigs on 12/06/13 00:02 UTC
I like the GloFrog idea, Mr. Paul!  A bit in the other direction, and addressing other strategies like night fishing the Dog Days of Summer.  I'm diggin' it like ShovelHead!
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: BareKnuckleJigs on 12/07/13 16:28 UTC
Cooked 8 oz.s of Soft with no color, shot some 3" Croakers, put all the scraps back in the pot, added some non-X2 Brown, some .015" and .040" Navy Blue flake, then hand-poured some 3" Sparkle Beetles, now marinating in Craw Scent.  The classic 3" Sparkle Beetle (OP) makes a decent, small Running Craw bait, oddly similar to a Missile Craw...also quite nice in Red Shad/Green.

The 3" Croakers are near-water-clear and I really think they'll be pretty serious.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Chuckleberry FIN on 12/07/13 23:24 UTC

And THAT... is what is so cool about making your own baits.  Welcome to the forum Mr. FIN.  We're all glad you are here.  Make yourself at he and enjoy.  - By Jerry V

Thank you Jerry.  I am new here...  and I do like the forum .... but I must say this ....    your avatar....   the picture of that kid in those glasses -  well, it is " FREAKING me out !!!"....LOL        It is messing with my head ....LOL
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Denny Welch on 12/08/13 08:39 UTC
Actually, that is an actual photograph of Jerry.  We just don't talk about it much.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: ctom on 12/08/13 09:23 UTC
I was going to say the same thing Denny. Actually that avatar picture shows his age real well. He was something when he was younger and both eyes worked.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: TommySkarlis on 12/08/13 09:26 UTC
A lot of you may not be aware - but Jerry was a wrestling superstar in high school and will probably flip both of you like a cheese omelet at the get-together!  You might want to apologize before it's too late!
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: BareKnuckleJigs on 12/08/13 11:19 UTC
I've been kinda trying to figure out Who's Who, just so You know who You're talking to.  I saw a pic with Jason and Diane, and I think it was some of the Do-It Crew.  I've spoken to Ryan and Jerry, and they both sound like they're my age, maybe even younger.  The few guys I saw in the pic look like they might have me beat by 5-10 years.  They sound a little younger, so I think there may be a hidden message in Jerry's avatar...?
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: ctom on 12/08/13 11:30 UTC
Both Ryan and Jerry are great guys. Met both on more than one occasion. Its hard to imagine Jerry in tights though....much easier imagining him wrestling with a keg of beer.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Denny Welch on 12/08/13 12:39 UTC
A lot of you may not be aware - but Jerry was a wrestling superstar in high school and will probably flip both of you like a cheese omelet at the get-together!  You might want to apologize before it's too late!

Well, if that's true he had better be a champion weightlifter too.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: BareKnuckleJigs on 12/08/13 14:02 UTC
And I definitely agree that they're both good guys.  I also think it's kicks to occasionally poke at a Big Dawg.  8D
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Jerry V on 12/11/13 19:35 UTC
I've been kinda trying to figure out Who's Who, just so You know who You're talking to.  I saw a pic with Jason and Diane, and I think it was some of the Do-It Crew.  I've spoken to Ryan and Jerry, and they both sound like they're my age, maybe even younger.  The few guys I saw in the pic look like they might have me beat by 5-10 years.  They sound a little younger, so I think there may be a hidden message in Jerry's avatar...?

BKJ, the photo that I think you're talking about is a pic of the Barnes family with Ryan and Jason H from Do-It.  There has never been a picture of Ryan and me together as I just won't allow it.  :D

We, all three, are relatively the same age, (we'll just say mid 40's) and we're a lot like the rest of Y'all.  We're just a bunch of guys that love to fish and find it very hard to fish as much as we would like.  What, with work and family obligations and all, it only leaves a few precious moments to actually enjoy the privilege, but we "Do-It" every chance we get. 

Speaking of photos...  I just today got my Christmas card from our Jason H..  Thought I'd share the family photo with Y'all.




(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/YankeesWineight/jasonfam.jpg)



Good lookin' bunch, don't ya think? 

There's nothing wrong with poking fun once in a while.  It's one of those things that makes life better.  Merry Christmas everyone.

Jerry
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Lamar on 12/11/13 19:44 UTC
  Now that is to funny !
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: BareKnuckleJigs on 12/11/13 19:47 UTC
Ay roger on'nat!

I'd have to turn that heater down a tad!
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: ctom on 12/11/13 19:51 UTC
He needs a b cup....on.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Denny Welch on 12/11/13 20:19 UTC
Ya know, some of us guys are a bit older than the mid-40's.  I think you should keep that in mind, Jerry, before you spring pictures like that on us.  We need
warnings.    Just sayin'.  It's a safety issue. 
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: MO QWACK on 12/11/13 20:29 UTC
Beautiful tree Jerry, Beautiful tree
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Jerry V on 12/11/13 20:37 UTC
Ya know, some of us guys are a bit older than the mid-40's.  I think you should keep that in mind, Jerry, before you spring pictures like that on us.  We need
warnings.    Just sayin'.  It's a safety issue.

Safety issue??... Naawww, all you gotta do is change you're shorts.  It's not a big deal, just a little more laundry that's all.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Denny Welch on 12/11/13 21:11 UTC
Safety issue??... Naawww, all you gotta do is change you're shorts.  It's not a big deal, just a little more laundry that's all.

What shorts?  This is California dontchaknow.
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Chuckleberry FIN on 12/13/13 20:24 UTC
I am sitting here looking at that photo and I cant stop laughing.   That is HILARIOUS !!! ...  and I love it.    Thanks to all for making me smile. 
Title: Re: Messing With Their Head
Post by: Chuckleberry FIN on 12/14/13 06:33 UTC
The funny remarks and that Christmas Card photo are so funny that I woke up this morning and had to come back and look at everything again.  And I am laughing just as hard this morning as I did last night.   I know it is a joke,  but that photo is "So wrong on So many levels"---  Lordy I love it.