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Title: Did some testing
Post by: DobynsTriton on 01/30/14 08:41 UTC
This kinda would go along with the previous warm water discharge

I took some 2.5'' fry with just the body portion dipped in clear with UV added. I initially went after white bass but ended up catching about 150 skipjack in about 3-4 hours.There was others fishing around me that were catching too but I noticed they weren't catching at frequently. Do I think the UV is a magic additive? No. Do I think it got me a few extra bonus fish? Possibly. I still would have caught fish even with out it as I did last week but it does show that ''a little extra bling'' can't hurt

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Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: ctom on 01/30/14 09:08 UTC
Studies on the Great Lakes and in salt-water situations have shown the uv to really bump up production on salmons and trout. I know stream trout anglers in this area are really leaning on products that have a uv enhancement of some kind and some studies have shown that these stream trout share in their abilities to see uv light extremely well with their larger cousins. This would suggest that the uv products do work better at least in those venues. Personally I've seen an up-tick in crappie production for me, specifically during the low-light periods of sunrise and sunset or when the sun's rays hit the water at shallow angles. I also know several walleye anglers who have done very well using enhanced baits that I have made for them. A couple of these guys swear the enhanced baits did than better than those that weren't given the enhancer.

As for bass, I have no idea if enhanced baits trip their trigger but some of the conversations that got kicked around at the conference in Denver last week alluded to the idea that uv products booted the hit percentages for many of the individuals.

Little was mentioned about northerns and muskies, but I will bet dollars to donuts that enhanced baits will do better at catching these prime time predators.

Like seed catalogs, right after Christmas I start getting the angling catalogs and tackle catalogs. One thing is very apparent in today's baits and lures: few manufacturers are NOT putting uv enhancers in or on their baits. My own opinions aside, I think that we are seeing this trend today because people want it and they probably want it because it works or at least the customers trust that it will/does. Its perhaps more of a confidence booster for some than anything, but none-the-less, the manufacturers are seeing to it that the anglers are getting it.

Now on that fish you're holding Dob....it looks amazingly similar to the Lake Herring we catch in Lake Superior. Our herring get up to about 6 pounds tops. Filleted and dredged in a season flour, battered and deep fried they are considered a delicacy along the lake shore. I keep a couple every summer for Carole and I to chew on and we eat them just about as fast as I can fillet them and Ma cooks them. Very good. And I keep a few in the fall to pickle. The backs of our variety of herring are a beautiful metallic green-grey. In the water that lateral line looks as red as blood. Lots of people who see them in the water confuse them with the smaller Steelhead and Kamloops Rainbows commonly found in Superior. Do you keep these or don't they have any table value?

Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: DobynsTriton on 01/30/14 09:23 UTC
Studies on the Great Lakes and in salt-water situations have shown the uv to really bump up production on salmons and trout. I know stream trout anglers in this area are really leaning on products that have a uv enhancement of some kind and some studies have shown that these stream trout share in their abilities to see uv light extremely well with their larger cousins. This would suggest that the uv products do work better at least in those venues. Personally I've seen an up-tick in crappie production for me, specifically during the low-light periods of sunrise and sunset or when the sun's rays hit the water at shallow angles. I also know several walleye anglers who have done very well using enhanced baits that I have made for them. A couple of these guys swear the enhanced baits did than better than those that weren't given the enhancer.

As for bass, I have no idea if enhanced baits trip their trigger but some of the conversations that got kicked around at the conference in Denver last week alluded to the idea that uv products booted the hit percentages for many of the individuals.

Little was mentioned about northerns and muskies, but I will bet dollars to donuts that enhanced baits will do better at catching these prime time predators.

Like seed catalogs, right after Christmas I start getting the angling catalogs and tackle catalogs. One thing is very apparent in today's baits and lures: few manufacturers are NOT putting uv enhancers in or on their baits. My own opinions aside, I think that we are seeing this trend today because people want it and they probably want it because it works or at least the customers trust that it will/does. Its perhaps more of a confidence booster for some than anything, but none-the-less, the manufacturers are seeing to it that the anglers are getting it.

Now on that fish you're holding Dob....it looks amazingly similar to the Lake Herring we catch in Lake Superior. Our herring get up to about 6 pounds tops. Filleted and dredged in a season flour, battered and deep fried they are considered a delicacy along the lake shore. I keep a couple every summer for Carole and I to chew on and we eat them just about as fast as I can fillet them and Ma cooks them. Very good. And I keep a few in the fall to pickle. The backs of our variety of herring are a beautiful metallic green-grey. In the water that lateral line looks as red as blood. Lots of people who see them in the water confuse them with the smaller Steelhead and Kamloops Rainbows commonly found in Superior. Do you keep these or don't they have any table value?

The fish is a skipjack herring but it's really boney. It's a fun fish to catch but typically when i do keep some over the course of the day it's to use as bait for rock fish. It's also used by some for catfish bait. when I mentioned Tennessee Tarpon on a previous post this is the fish I was talking about. This time of year they're more abundant then threadfin shad & a person could easily catch enough of them for bait for about 2-3 people. The area the fish & others were caught was at a powerplant where it has warm water in it constantly that usually stays around 52-53 degrees with the water away from the power plant being about 40-42 degrees during winter
Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: ctom on 01/30/14 09:35 UTC
Our herring have bone structure just like a walleye. I fillet they just as I would a walleye. The meat is translucent white and stays that way when cooked.

Some people that live around the big lake buy herring from netters and cut the fillets into strips and use those as a add-on when jigging Lake Trout. The skin of those fish is hyper reflective and with visibility with the eye down to 50-60 feet, that not only adds a fish scent but a lot of flash down deeper. The old boys using the herring strips use them on 3 ounce jigs and attached to single strand wire line. Some use rods and heavy reels for tis, others still use jigging boards and gloves to jig the trout and work water down to 300 feet.
Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: DobynsTriton on 01/30/14 09:50 UTC
Our herring have bone structure just like a walleye. I fillet they just as I would a walleye. The meat is translucent white and stays that way when cooked.

Some people that live around the big lake buy herring from netters and cut the fillets into strips and use those as a add-on when jigging Lake Trout. The skin of those fish is hyper reflective and with visibility with the eye down to 50-60 feet, that not only adds a fish scent but a lot of flash down deeper. The old boys using the herring strips use them on 3 ounce jigs and attached to single strand wire line. Some use rods and heavy reels for tis, others still use jigging boards and gloves to jig the trout and work water down to 300 feet.

these are indeed smelly lol. i use them in chunks & sometimes ill hook a circle hook thru about a 6-7'' one while its alive & drift it occasionally. most the time though the guts are the deal for the rockfish in there
Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: jmatheny9 on 01/30/14 09:57 UTC
Makes me wish we had these things. From what you have said I'm thinking the closest we've got is hybrids


                   -Jeremiah
Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: DobynsTriton on 01/30/14 10:05 UTC
Makes me wish we had these things. From what you have said I'm thinking the closest we've got is hybrids


                   -Jeremiah

we have whitebass,rockfish (stripers) & hybrids . over the years theyve been really difficult. back around 08 & 09 it wasnt hard to catch 30-50 lbs of rockfish in a day with a occassional 15lbr
Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: jmatheny9 on 01/30/14 10:25 UTC
We have all of those bass but not the skipjack herring.


                   -Jeremiah
Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: DobynsTriton on 01/30/14 10:31 UTC
We have all of those bass but not the skipjack herring.


                   -Jeremiah

TN has a good amount. then around othert places in the south theres blueback herring
Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: ctom on 01/30/14 10:43 UTC
On a line the Lake Herring are as strong as a Salmon of comparable size. Fun to catch. I throw #2 Mepps style spinners at them. Gold/orange dip on the body at the hook. Dynamite bait...Salmon eat it too.
Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: matt on 01/30/14 20:50 UTC
Yeah I love skipjack fishin  this time of year when nothing else biting I think they're like fresh water tarpon just a smaller version but I have to travel on way to do that anymore

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Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: pjmcla on 01/30/14 20:57 UTC
And a lot more slimy  >:(.
Title: Re: Did some testing
Post by: efishnc on 02/01/14 20:29 UTC
As for bass, I have no idea if enhanced baits trip their trigger but some of the conversations that got kicked around at the conference in Denver last week alluded to the idea that uv products booted the hit percentages for many of the individuals.

Little was mentioned about northerns and muskies, but I will bet dollars to donuts that enhanced baits will do better at catching these prime time predators.

I have experienced bass more aggressive on the low light bite with UV over what my boat partners have been using, but I'm not as religious with using it for bass as I am for walleyes.

As far as muskies... DEFINITELY!  Anything that gets an extra bite every 10,000 casts is worth a try, but personal experience shows me that it can make the difference.  Northerns, however, don't any extra encouragement around me... I can't tell you of all the bass and walleye gear that I've been robbed of by those underwater coyotes.  (I'd probably have a different view of them if they were as tough to come by as muskies, but they sure can be a pestilence on the Ol' Miss.)