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Soft Plastic Bait Making => New Releases => Topic started by: Jerry V on 02/11/14 14:12 UTC
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We are throwing another finesse worm into the mix. Introducing... EL GUSANO, 4.5" AND 6" along with laminate plates for each. These are pretty straight forward worms designed to coax a difficult bite into happening. The 6" has a diameter of 5/16" and the 4.5" diameter is 1/4" both tapering to the tail. The front half of the worm is round then transitions to a flat tail section. Perfect for drop shot or shakey head presentations these worms will boost your percentages with out a doubt.
They are available for purchase by calling customer service directly 319-984-6055.
#95266, 4.5", 3 cavity = 99.00
#95267, 4.5" Lami Plate = 18.99
#95268, 6", 3 cavity = 129.00
#95269, 6" Lami Plate = 19.99
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Sweet! You read my mind -
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Guess I found my next mold! ;)
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Can you make it in a 5 cav mold and drop the price to make it a better deal? 3 cavity for 129? Just seems a bit high.
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Nice looking worm
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Ok I have to ask. Why just three cav? Why not five. Or even four?
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Ok I have to ask. Why just three cav? Why not five. Or even four?
Cost,as always, is based on the same formula used to figure cost on any existing designs. It centers heavily on machine time, details, and the tooling used to achieve that.
Can you make it in a 5 cav mold and drop the price to make it a better deal? 3 cavity for 129? Just seems a bit high.
Of course we could have made it 4 or 5 cavities, but as mentioned, the price would certainly not drop by doing so.
You should really have a good look at this worm. It's been in the works now for many months and tested, not only by us, but Elite Series Bass Anglers as well. Their feed back has lead us to sacrifice cutting corners for an effective, quality design.
This Dog Hunts.
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I like the taper then back to thick. Seems like it's give it lots of action
@bullfroglures #bullfroglures
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You should send some to indiana. See if that dog really does hunt. Only five fish here. And one died this winter I think.
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Yup, dat nice
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Jerry V - On the 4.5 inch version; is that 1/4th at the head or at the egg sac? If at the sac; what is the head diameter?
Thanks
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It's 1/4 at the head.
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JERRY That didn't take long. IF YOU GUYS KEEP IT UP I WILL HAVE TO FIND A BIG PLACE.
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Jerry am I right the worm is full round and changes to semi flat at the tail
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JERRY That didn't take long. IF YOU GUYS KEEP IT UP I WILL HAVE TO FIND A BIG PLACE.
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lol. And a new mortgage to pay for it. Its amazing that it takes that much longer to machine this worm vs the stick bait.
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Jerry am I right the worm is full round and changes to semi flat at the tail
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Yes, the tail section of this bait is totally flat on the bottom. The nose section of the bait is full round for easy rigging.
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lol. And a new mortgage to pay for it. Its amazing that it takes that much longer to machine this worm vs the stick bait.
you ain't kidding!!! Sorry guys, but $129 for a 3 cavity "off the shelf" commercially available mold is quite high, makes more sense to have a custom bait made and the molds cut if you're looking at any kind of cavity count.
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Thanks for the input guys. We're always open to your comments.
While the price point for this particular mold may not be for everyone, this is the bait we chose to make and in the way it needed to be made. It is not your run-of-the-mill finesse worm and unfortunately it's original, organic design comes with some added machine time and tooling. If you would like to see it up close and personal please let me know and I'll see what I can do about getting some in your hands. There is one stipulation... photos of any fish caught using one of these sample baits must be posted in this thread for future reference.
Thanks,
Jerry
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Thanks for the input guys. We're always open to your comments.
While the price point for this particular mold may not be for everyone, this is the bait we chose to make and in the way it needed to be made. It is not your run-of-the-mill finesse worm and unfortunately it's original, organic design comes with some added machine time and tooling. If you would like to see it up close and personal please let me know and I'll see what I can do about getting some in your hands. There is one stipulation... photos of any fish caught using one of these sample baits must be posted in this thread for future reference.
Thanks,
Jerry
should we expect to see a increase in the rest of the lineup?
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Only on your orders Bugpac - only on your orders. 8)
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Im just curious. Im about to buy some stuff. And certainly dont want to pay 40 percent more when I want to add to it..
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Are all these pics of one bait mold or are some of the 4.5 Inch and some the 6.0 Inch?
It is an interesting looking bait. There is a lot going on with it.
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Three cavity...Boooooo >:(
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Are all these pics of one bait mold or are some of the 4.5 Inch and some the 6.0 Inch?
It is an interesting looking bait. There is a lot going on with it.
The group shot is a pic of the 6" version and the single baits shown are of the 4.5" model. The mold pic is also the 4.5" version.
Three cavity...Boooooo >:(
I'll put you down in the "not purchasing this particular mold" slot. Thanks for your input.
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Tough crowd!
Nice bait. If I fished Shakey or similar, I'd be on that like Stink On Scent.
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I think it's a killer looking bait
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looks pretty nice, do wonder,? whether there is enough action in it
dropshot this one, catch fish ;D
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It's a nice looking bait, but I had to hook myself up to the AED. Sticker Shock $$$$ :o
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Maybe if all the negatories here would have come to the get-together they'd have seen just why molds cost what they do.
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This is one design, a single option in a large variety of molds currently in design stages. There is a ton of new stuff on the horizon, many of which are aimed at making this a more cost effective process. The exacting specifications of El Gasuno may not lend itself to being one of those cost effective molds.
We understand that there are other finesse worm molds on the market with a smaller price tag. That is not why, or how, this mold was designed. It was designed to be a very effective tool for finesse presentations and that is exactly what it is and does. Our formula for pricing molds is the same as it was from day 1. Better designs are more complicated to run and require more machine time. If it leads to a better bait that catches more fish, than we are "OK" with the price of that mold being a little more expensive than that of a competitor. "Apples to Oranges" is what my Grandpa would say.
We have plenty of other new designs on the board that will be coming in the next few weeks. Designs that will likely be more affordable, yet exciting, effective and easy to use. Not every mold is for everyone. We appreciate everyone's feedback, and are looking forward to the weeks ahead. Be looking for more new designs and products coming soon.
Thank you,
Jerry
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understand the reactions of some people,also from do it
it remains a nice template, would test the baits out here in belgium
if it catch fish here, then captures the fish everywhere
regret that shipping cost is so high, to get some baits
Yves
it remains a fun hobby ;D
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Jerry V. - Thanks for your pictures reply. I was thinking that was it; ( I was counting segments, as best as I could ). Pictures, and picture angle create problems for me. Could we get a picture of the bottom of the worm; or mold; to see whats going on there?
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This is an expensive mold, yes. Nothing wrong with asking why, but there's no reason to be negative or to complain. As Jerry says, there is plenty of detail on it which ups the price. Look at the 7" ribbed ribbon tail; it's $129 for a 2 cavity. Ease up guys. If it's out of your price range, skip it. If Do-It was planning on raising prices I think they'd have started with all of the recent new molds, but those molds were right in line with the existing product line.
I don't use a ton of finesse worms, but this one looks slick. I'd be up for trying some of these out.
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All questions/comments are good for both the buyer and seller as it helps create the understanding of the markets needs, I don't think anyone is out of line and Jerry has handle it quite well, keep up the good work!
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I can understand why the "loyal following" percieves everything negatively. I wasnt trying to be negative. If walmart was selling milk for 8.00 a gallon you guys concluding negativity would be complaining to. Im sure not a single person here hasnt cryed about gas being 4.00 a gallon.
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As Ctom mentioned we saw the worm at the Do-it get together and it had a ton of action in the water. I'm sure if you were a drop shot fisherman you would love this bait and it would be worth the price.
And I can see why it's a bit spendy...it not a simple design. Cost of the block of aluminum, plus machine time = price and I'm sure these molds are not cranked out at high speed!
If you go back in the forum posts (way back) there is a pretty good explanation of why the Pro molds don't really save a lot of money over buying multiple smaller cavity molds. Again, same amount of aluminum block, same amount of machine time for a 6 cavity or two 3 cavity molds. There is also the issue of how the design affects the number of passes the cutter needs to take to make the mold and that is probably a pretty complicated/technical discussion.
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Jerry V. - Thanks for your pictures reply. I was thinking that was it; ( I was counting segments, as best as I could ). Pictures, and picture angle create problems for me. Could we get a picture of the bottom of the worm; or mold; to see whats going on there?
I've already offered samples. If you're interested PM, email or call me and I'll get something out for you, but if you catch fish on the darn thing you need to post pics. That's the deal.
PM sent Paul.
Thanks,
Jerry
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Bugpac, I didn't consider your comments negative, just honest questions/concerns. Constructive eedback, good and bad, is a GOOD thing and all companies should be happy to get both types so they can improve business. There are a couple comments that are maybe more negative than they need to be. Just my honest opinion. If MY post sounded harsh or negative to you guys that wasn't my intent and I apologize. I've been on Jerry's end of things. It's not pretty on that side of the fence.
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Bugpac, I didn't consider your comments negative, just honest questions/concerns. Constructive eedback, good and bad, is a GOOD thing and all companies should be happy to get both types so they can improve business. There are a couple comments that are maybe more negative than they need to be. Just my honest opinion. If MY post sounded harsh or negative to you guys that wasn't my intent and I apologize. I've been on Jerry's end of things. It's not pretty on that side of the fence.
ill leave the subject alone now. Ill likely own one some day.. I wouldnt want to have Jerrys shoes for sure..
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I can understand why the "loyal following" percieves everything negatively. I wasnt trying to be negative. If walmart was selling milk for 8.00 a gallon you guys concluding negativity would be complaining to. Im sure not a single person here hasnt cryed about gas being 4.00 a gallon.
If gas was $4.00 a gallon and the guy across the street had gas for $3.00 for a gallon and a half, where would you go?
Competitive market for molds.
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iI wouldnt want to have Jerrys shoes for sure..
Me either. I'm sure they stink. If he's ever in need of a new pair, I'd be happy to sell him some. Comes with a dog.
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If gas was $4.00 a gallon and the guy across the street had gas for $3.00 for a gallon and a half, where would you go?
Competitive market for molds.
You're right on point, Bill. It's called supply and demand. If someone else sells that same mold cheaper, then buy if from them. If no one else sells it and you don't want to pay the price it's selling for, then don't buy it. If a lot are sold, the manufacturer priced it right. If few are sold, the manufacturer will either reduce the price or quit manufacturing the mold. Simple!
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Boy....am I glad I fish crappies.
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Boy....am I glad I fish crappies.
Yup, I'm glad you fish Crappies too Tom. ;)
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I don't fish crappie and glad of it. Not enough pull at the end for me. I play a different game on here then some. I read most of the post but if your bait isn't a bait I would fish or a color that's not for me I simply don't post. An example would be I post very little on Tom's because I don't fish crappie and that's all he fishes. Do-it came out with some grub tail molds earlier and I never made a comment on them because I could care a less about them. So if I post on your baits then that means I like them and not just being nice. I'm never known for just being nice. Now this mold I like. I've been looking at getting a round worm and was just about ready to pull the trigger with another company. I like how it has more body at the nose for the screw and flat at the tail for action. Kind of like the old Charlie Brewer worms. Spelling ? The price is what it is. Do-it has always been fair to me in the past. If you want to talk about price let's talk about our trucks and boats. If it was all about price then none of us would fish. I for one am fishing next month so I'm going to give Jerry a call. Thanks Do-it for being a leader in the industry and always finding a way to take my money.
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I'm kinda startin' to like this Lamar Guy... :D
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This I call service.
Jerry send special baits to Belgium, for testing them out here
I call this 1st class service +++++++++
realy thanks jerry
this forum and company "Rocks"!!! :P
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Uh, Jerry, how about sending some special baits out to Cool, CA to see if they work here!
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I'm ordered. If your from Ohio then this mold is a piece of crap and way over priced. Don't order it. I'm ok with being the only guy out fishing tournaments with it. I promise to not smile as I take your entry fees. Rejoice in knowing you saved those few extra bucks.
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Haha that's almost as funny as listening to the others crying. IMO this mold looks looks perfect for what is intended for. Hey could be worse could of been a single cav.
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Lol Lamar!
Denny, as mentioned earlier in the thread. PM Jerry, he'll hook you up. I have a feeling he's going to be locked in his lab pouring samples for awhile!
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I got samples of this with my thump grub mold - this worm is the real deal folks - the picture(s) simply don't do it justice.
Next 2 molds I order will be these.
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I got my mold today. I bought the six inch and totally love it. For a six inch shaky head worm it's perfect. With the round body on the front half for the screw lock and hook and the flat side on the tail this worm is a winner in my book.
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Botanophilia - Yes; but Jerry can cheat and "Test Inject" the new molds. I wonder how many molds you can inject with a 9.5 ounce injector of plastic?
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Good point PJ. At least we'll know those molds are injecting well. :)
Jerry's the man! I got my samples today in an assortment of colors and both sizes. Now it just needs to fast forward to June so I can get on the water and try them out! These are going to be killer worms.
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I received my package, what a lovely worms
The 4.5 inch looks good
6 inch is to big for me , for dropshotting
Thanks Jerry and do it team :P
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Guys, if dropshot is your game, this is the mold. The 6in worm holds parallel all the while your shaking. When it does fall, nose first with the tail upright and stays this way. It's shows tremendous action. Can't wait until the ice thaws and get this baby out of the fish tank.
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Dang it!!!!!!
Question, could you send me a worm to check out in person?
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I just cant stop coming back to this thread and looking at this mold. Pulled the trigger today and pm'ed Jerry 8)
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Gonna have to get some of these for some lake fork unders.
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Has anyone tried the Thump Grub on a drop shot?
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This bait looks very similar to a trick worm, am I right?
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well the worm looks good but I can quicky point out 2 worms on the market with MORE CAVITYS for HALF THE PRICE and they are nearly Identical or in the same ball park. If it costs you this much to make one mold perhaps you should find a way to cut costs or get them manufactured elsewhere the price is not reasonable no matter what the excuse is.. this that and the other Ill buy my bait mold somewhere else . most people are hobbyists not selling baits to people and to charge 129 for a 3 cavity 6" mold is retarded !!!!!! there are far better more complex double the cavity molds for much much cheaper so the fact that your claiming this to be like the ultimate design for the price is nonsense in fact I bet it costs less to make this mold, maybe you paid someone to design it but the cost for this mold would not cost more to machine then any other 6 " worm, you guys act like no one else knows about cnc so your excuses will be accepted .. NOT. excuses are not acceptable when they are BS. Stop trying to make bait hobbying into an elitist hobby where only rich people can afford it. you guys finally get a great mold and the price is insane. :P even if it had 6 cavitys its still the most expensive 6" worm on the market! period !besides production molds! think about that. I dont even need a response I know it will be more pointless excuses . typical response from someone selling something. Most expensive 6" worm with the least amount of cavities . congratulations . lol ps ive never made a complaint to a bait company before but the prices are getting out of control you can buy an injector for less !
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You are on the wrong forum...with your attitude you should go be a troll on TackleUnderground...you'll fit right in.
If you don't like the mold...don't buy it.
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Hey Horror,
What rock did you crawl out from under? I haven't seen your name around any of the other forums, yet you come across as having posted before. I am really curious who you are and where you're from. For whatever reason, it looks like you decided not to give us any hints as to your identity. So, what is the intent behind your angry post. Is it because Do-It is charging too much for that particular mold? Have you ever seen the baits it produces? If you ever seen or touched the mold? Did you purchase the mold? Why are you so angry? I wonder why you have taken it upon yourself, an unknown, to make such a public display of purported anger and outrage. Could there be an alternative motive? I think so. Why don't you just crawl back under that rock? Go away.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot, welcome to the forum.
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Wow
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Rick,
Welcome to our forum.
No excuses, it is an expensive mold. It was a thought out decision on our part that is paying off. I am not going to try to argue our rational here, but I am always willing to have a discussion over the phone. I will give you that invitation like I have before. Please call me at 319-984-6055 and we can discuss the specifics of this mold or anything else you might have on your mind.
We are committed to the design and production of cnc molds and have recently invested in equipment to more than double our production. There be will several new items available shortly at a variety of price points.
Do-it has always made it a priority to provide quality products at a cost effective price for the tackle maker and will continue to emphasize that in the future.
Ryan
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Never thought I would see a troll here...
I had too, I couldn't help it..
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/11/za2ezepu.jpg)
LOL!
#CBBDARMY @CustomBaitsByDrew
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I've had my days (well known secret), but I can and will say, I've seen some FINE People and Service come from the guys at Do-It. No wonder they're at the top.
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Never thought I would see a troll here...
I had too, I couldn't help it..
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/11/za2ezepu.jpg)
LOL!
#CBBDARMY @CustomBaitsByDrew
Ha! Too Funny!
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I've fished for years with the Berkley Power Shaky Worm. My buddy and I would have the bottom of the boat full of those worms after a full day of fishing. I know we would go through 20 packs a year. I think I was one of the first to buy the 6 inch El Gusano mold. It's now the only six inch straight worm I use on a shaky head. It has the round head for the screw and the flat on the tail for the action. Now we take our old worms and melt them down to make new ones. My math says we already have our money back. Besides in the fishing world my boat was $60,000 my line for 1000 yards is $107 my truck was $42,000. Ya get my point. I'm not on a budget if I want the best.
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I'll side with rick and say the price does seem a little high.
In my cart at home, I have the glade grub and ribbon tail worm saved, once I get my next paycheck I'll probably purchase them and some colorants.
However, after purchasing similar molds and having a custom mold designed for me, I'm not quite sure why this particular mold is so pricey. No doubt it looks great, I'm sure it shots great, I just can't justify the cost for a 3 cavity mold.
Not trying to troll, and I do like do-it products, just stating my opinion.
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I'll bring this back from page two for anyone who may not have been around here long enough to follow the entire thread from the beginning.
Thanks for the input guys. We're always open to your comments.
While the price point for this particular mold may not be for everyone, this is the bait we chose to make and in the way it needed to be made. It is not your run-of-the-mill finesse worm and unfortunately it's original, organic design comes with some added machine time and tooling. If you would like to see it up close and personal please let me know and I'll see what I can do about getting some in your hands. There is one stipulation... photos of any fish caught using one of these sample baits must be posted in this thread for future reference.
Thanks,
Jerry
Incidentally: I caught a hand full of Smallies from 12-17 inches using El Gusano 4.5" on a small, local stream just this weekend. I was wading so the phone / camera stayed in the vehicle.