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Soft Plastic Bait Making => Soft Plastic and Plastic Baits - How To??? => Topic started by: SBuck88 on 03/18/14 08:57 UTC

Title: How to Make These?
Post by: SBuck88 on 03/18/14 08:57 UTC
I saw this on a posting in Tackle Underground and no one had any ideas how these were made.  Did he just pour by hand and inject clear with glitter straight through it?
http://custombaits.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2121 (http://custombaits.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2121)
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: snookjunky on 03/18/14 09:11 UTC
I saw this on a posting in Tackle Underground and no one had any ideas how these were made.  Did he just pour by hand and inject clear with glitter straight through it?
http://custombaits.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2121 (http://custombaits.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2121)
The guys name who makes those is "plastic man" he is on the bait junky forums you can message him there. I think the technique is called core shooting.

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Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: DobynsTriton on 03/18/14 09:20 UTC
probably shot half a bait added x2 colorant where needed then shot other half
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: ctom on 03/18/14 09:43 UTC
What Dob said. Very coarse glitter is used. Fun to look at, probably get fish as well. I'd keep'em at home for show.
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: Bugpac on 03/18/14 09:49 UTC
Its not shot in halves because there is no  lamiplates for those molds. im pretty sure its a core shot then dipped. Not sure what other techniques are used.
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: jl3140 on 03/18/14 10:05 UTC
Its not shot in halves because there is no  lamiplates for those molds. im pretty sure its a core shot then dipped. Not sure what other techniques are used.
He might have made 'laminate plates' with sheet aluminum to create have baits. That's my best guess anyways. If he just did a core shot and then dipped, there would be no color down in the tails although he definitely dipped the head/body area of the baits if I'm seeing it correctly.
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: ctom on 03/18/14 10:19 UTC
You simply hand pour one side about 2/3 full of the base color, put drops of colorant on that poured plastic, close the mold and fill the rest with the base color. You don't need plates to do laminates at all.
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: jl3140 on 03/18/14 10:26 UTC
You simply hand pour one side about 2/3 full of the base color, put drops of colorant on that poured plastic, close the mold and fill the rest with the base color. You don't need plates to do laminates at all.
If that's what he did, which he could have, he is better at hand pouring than I am since those look like smaller lures. They are really cool lookin' though :)
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: Bugpac on 03/18/14 10:27 UTC
either way. I know he didnt make a plate. and if you look at the tail section you can tell its not a belly pour. I guess you guys can have fun figuring it out. :) Ill have them in handto catch fish on soon. :)
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: Bugpac on 03/18/14 10:31 UTC
Its actually a good size bait, here is more of his work.
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg289/microspoons/012_zps62798f84.jpg)
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: ctom on 03/18/14 10:36 UTC
Sure it is. You an see the color line run right into the tail from well into the head end of the bait. You don't have to fill the entire length of the one side with a hand pour to do this, only enough to carry the drops of color you want, then finish with that same pour color. What determines whether the colors will go all the way into the tail is how large the drops of color are. Two inches, 2/3 of the height of one side, will carry five or six different colors, and is all that needed. When the injection is made all of these colors wash thru the column of plastic as it flows in. The color drops with the most volume will flow the furthest and be the most outstanding.
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: jl3140 on 03/18/14 10:41 UTC
Sure it is. You an see the color line run right into the tail from well into the head end of the bait. You don't have to fill the entire length of the one side with a hand pour to do this, only enough to carry the drops of color you want, then finish with that same pour color. What determines whether the colors will go all the way into the tail is how large the drops of color are. Two inches, 2/3 of the height of one side, will carry five or six different colors, and is all that needed. When the injection is made all of these colors wash thru the column of plastic as it flows in. The color drops with the most volume will flow the furthest and be the most outstanding.
Oh cool! That's some awesome information right there. I always thought you had to have a complete half bait to do the color swirl core shot thing. Now how do you decide when you've put large enough drops of colorant to get all the way to the tail? Is it just trial and error?
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: ctom on 03/18/14 10:41 UTC
Its actually a good size bait, here is more of his work.
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg289/microspoons/012_zps62798f84.jpg)

This bait is definitely done using a plate
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: Bugpac on 03/18/14 10:46 UTC
Ill guarantee you it is not done that way, We make the mold and there is no plate, it was shot with a dual.
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: ctom on 03/18/14 10:50 UTC
Oh cool! That's some awesome information right there. I always thought you had to have a complete half bait to do the color swirl core shot thing. Now how do you decide when you've put large enough drops of colorant to get all the way to the tail? Is it just trial and error?

Trial and error my man. And I can assure you that no two baits will ever be the same. As for pouring in the plastics, use a teaspoon. Get the plastic to temp, warm the spoon and clean it off, then ladle the amount you want in the cavity. Your biggest challenge is the spoon and figuring out the little things that come with using one. Be sure you wipe the bottom side of the spoon on the cup edge when you dip out plastic and don't work with too much plastic at a time.

Actually, this technique falls right in line with the thread on using junk plastics to make loaner baits in that using junk plastic is the best way to learn this hand pouring technique. Work with junk until you have a little confidence in the spoon, then switch to the transparent plastic and add the color drops using a toothpick dipped in the color you want. Clamp and shoot. That simple. If you have issues with the color dots running when you stand the mold up to shoot it, keep it laid flat, close and clamp down on a table-top with the port facing the edge.
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: jmatheny9 on 03/18/14 11:19 UTC
I'll have to try using a small ladle or something like a spoon. I've been using my Pyrex to pour and I'm getting pretty decent at it but then again I don't have smaller baits


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Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: ctom on 03/18/14 16:22 UTC
Ill guarantee you it is not done that way, We make the mold and there is no plate, it was shot with a dual.

I can see the dual injection getting this done with the worms shown after the first pic, but not the other at the top of the post.
Title: Re: How to Make These?
Post by: SYBaits on 03/21/14 15:57 UTC
You guys want to see more of his work, google  Microspoons and Jigs..I'm at work so I don't have the URL, but the man is just talented as all heck