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Fishing News and Reports => Fishing Techniques and Rigging => Topic started by: kevin on 09/26/14 08:06 UTC
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i have been using sufix performance braid for many years. i see online they have other braids for much cheaper. was wondering if anyone tried any/ an which 1 they like. These are the over sees dyneema braid/spectra braid i am talking about. not other sufix,power pro, or any of the name brand stuff. I have been see in this dyneema an spectra braid online go for cheap. I didnt no if it was worth a try? or has any one had good results with any
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I haven't used dyneema or spectra braid, but I have used some cheaper braid. I bought Cabela's brand braid a month or so ago to spool my new reel with, I really don't recommend it. I got a 15lb spool for around $10 I think. The line feels nice, but when knotted and then unknotted it frays really bad. The fraying doesn't happen on the very end, it happens around the area that the knot gets cinched tight.
I used PowerPro for years, and decided to go a little cheaper this time around and I regret it now. Luckily I have a lot of line on the reel so I can just cut off bits that fray.
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never dealt with cabelas or bass pro's braid.. sufix performance braid has been on my rods an i love it. I tried sufix 832 and power pro an pp slick 8. if i wasnt able to get performance braid i would choose slick 8.
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I only use PowerPro (tried everything else too!).
If you have having issues with "digging in" and/or backlashes go to a higher diameter. When I first starting using braid I talked to the guys at St. Croix rods and they strongly suggested that you match the diameter of the braid to the suggested weights listed on the rod because they guides were sized for that diameter line.
I use 8lb diameter (I think it's 20 lb test) on my walleye spinning rods. And that super small diameter (2lb) on my crappie spinning rod ...but it is really hard to keep it on my finger when casting!
8 lb diameter on my worm/jig bait casting rod (so it will sink fast) and the the 50 lbs test (I think that's 20lb diameter) on my other bait casting rods (spinnerbait rod and a heavy Northern Pike rod I use for Pike and flippin').
I have one spinning rod with mono for top water baits.
And one baitcasting rod with 12lb test fluorocarbon ...(PLine). I have not been very happy with fluorocarbon lines so far! Pline is the only one I've been happy with.
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p-line fluoroclear?
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I used braid for a while after it had been out for a little while. For me; it had it issues, tip wrapping, flying knots, wasn't clear. Braid does have excellent feel and zero stretch has it's place. After fluorocarbon had been out for a while I tried it and it is now replaced all my braid. I do not fish heavy wood or grass at all ( this is where I would use a high quality braid ).
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I fish fluorocarbon. At times it a pain but if your not fishing it your missing bites. Plane and simple. A buddy of mine went to Canada with me this year and all he brought was braid. He was catching a few walleyes but when I let him use my rod with fluorocarbon on it he couldn't believe how much more he could feel. I use power pro braid for top water and buzz baits.
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I use power pro and 832 with 24" of 10 - 20 lb. Flor. Have been fishing that way scenes power pro came out. 8) 8) 8)
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wow.. i can't believe nobody on here has tried the dyneema/spectra braids that are on ebay etc. heck u can get a spool of 100m or 300m for less than 10$ tyd.
guess i will be the tester?
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I've "played around" with numerous braids and have found that you pretty much get what you pay for. Have been using Spiderwire stealth for years, switched numerous friends over from competitive brands and I am now trying the new Berkley Trilene Braid - 20 pound test - I really like what I see so far - but I want to "work it over" for another 20 days of hard fishing to see how it works out - before I will recommend it.
I use braid for vertical jigging, three way "pulling" and some trolling and very little "piching". I mostly use FireLine for casting cranks and "pitching" jigs a long ways. Also using Nano-Fil if you really have to whip it out there or you are throwing small cranks - into the wind - etc.
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Be looking forward to your report on the Trilene Braid
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There's a new line coming out this spring that looks promising. Being old I can't remember the name to save my live. It's small diameter, no stretch (has all the properties of braid) and will cost about a third of what braid cost. I'll stumble across the article again and post it. Have a buddy that is supposed to get some to try in the next couple weeks.
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Have you tried Bonehead braid?
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i tried numerous braids but keep on going back to the sufix performance braid.. the sufix 832 and fireline was alittle to wirey for me . i didnt try the trilene yet.. but a buddy said it was good also.. now if u wanna throw it on a spinning rod for trout or so,.,. i loved the fireline 6lb for throwing spinners.. u could thow a spinner all year and never get a twist .
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Tried several different braids but always end up going back to Power Pro. For me, it does everything I need well and holds up for a really long time. Only thing I can think to complain about is that it seems to fade a little faster than a few of the other braids in its price range but when I feel it has faded too much for my tastes I just back spool it onto another one of my reels I throw braid on ;D
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Have PP on a few of mine, the heavier ones, 20 lb., 50 lb., and 65 lb.. Have Sufix 832 on the lighter Spinning Reels, 6 and 10. I've tried the Seaguar braid which was horrible. I find the Sufix to hold its color a little longer than PP, but both lose it. I prefer my braid to be more stiff, not soft and floppy like wet cotton twine. I am happy with my rigs the way they are now but I'm game to make the swap to all 832 (from PP) when it's time for new line. I do find the 832 to be a bit more abrasion resistant...PP gets fuzzy just from passing through guides, while the 832 seems to hold up quite a bit better.
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Are you all fishing the braid for feel or are you fishing in thick stuff where you need the abrasion resistance? Or heavy current where the line diameter provides less resistance?
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i fish braid everywhere , doesnt matter if i'm fishing thick stuff,,current, (just prefer it)
i like it on most of my rods cause of strength and no stretch..
easier hook sets
it might cost more $ ,
but it last long. like earlier post ..when it looses color or you have fished it alot. just put it onto another reel an wham!!!! u have new line that has'nt seen water.
I use the 20lb ,30lb an 50lb for top water never owned 10 or 15lb braid YET
On most my rods i use a fluoro leader , that i tie the crazy alberto knot to attach them with.
I have no experience with the micro guide rods so i am not sure how the crazy alberto knot passes through them
I have bought several brands of over seas braid. I am going to try out soon and see how they do.( it is much cheaper)
I have been buying my name brand braided line online for many years. I usually can get the 300yd spools for as cheap as the 150yd spools that they sell in stores.
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I use braid for all of the reasons...no stretch = sensitivity = hook-set efficiency (be mindful with hook-sets, and all the variables therein). Diameter = low resistance = high spool capacity. I've gathered that braid lasts longer on the reel and doesn't deteriorate like mono and fluorocarbon can. I always use mono or fluorocarbon leaders for 1, lower visibility...2, fluoro./mono leaders are easier to work with than braid...and 3, leaders are replaced (probably retied a time or 2 before the whole leader gets replaced) instead of shortening the Main Line every time You retie.
Braid is awesome in deep water...by deep I mean 150' down to about 400'...I don't like cranking over 400' fishing the bottom, and 300' is about all I really care to crank from...braid just excels because of all the benefits of no-stretch here. I also like braid for fishing Catfish.
I have the 6 lb. and 10 lb. braid on the 2 lighter rigs for sensitivity, over-testage (I find braid usually seems like it over-tests), and mostly the castability. It casts WAY better than mono/fluoro (from a spinning reel) since it doesn't have the diameter and the stiff Spool Memory Coils. Thinking about it now, the only reels I have left with non-braid are my 2 Calcuttas...a 200B and a 200GTB...they get Red Label.
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Are you all fishing the braid for feel or are you fishing in thick stuff where you need the abrasion resistance? Or heavy current where the line diameter provides less resistance?
I use braid for feel, mainly when I'm "long-lining" for walleyes above freezing temps, but go to mono below freezing; to me braid is all about feel... (kinda goofy, but a heavy cross wind will push me back to mono because it is stiffer and I can connect on more fish in adverse conditions with it.) Also, mono will "pop" a jig backwards off a snag far more times than braid will. Braid is certainly much more durable, but mono has far less problems on a bait-casting reel as well, so, all in all, mono gets about 90% of my action.
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I use braid to vertically jig and even then there is a learning curve.
Not having any, or very little, stretch, I am a mono or fluoro guy when trolling as the stretch in those lines is more forgiving when fish hit and tear-offs are seldom seen especially with hard baits. When jigging vertically with braid, the hit is felt immediately and I find that a two count gets the hook in more fish than a reaction hook set. When I am casting and retrieving jigs I use mono almost exclusively. My panfish braid rods have either Berkley 3 pound Nanofil or 4 pound Suffix 832.
I have a baitcaster and a spinning reel spooled up with 10 pound diameter Power Pro for top-water fishing bass is slop and weeds.
I have two spinning rods and a baitcaster rigged with 4/10 Power Pro or 6 pound Nano for vertically jigging walleyes. As soon as casting or trolling come into play, the mono or fluoro come into action.
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I generally have braid on only 3 or 4 of my rods. One is a flipping stick and one is my rod I use for top water both spooled up with 50 pound PP and the other one is a light spinning outfit with 10 pound PP. If I have 4, it is usually another flipping stick rigged with 65 or 80 pound test that I am using to punch with. The water I fish is usually pretty stained with less than 3 feet of decent visibility so the fish being line shy isn't a real concern of mine. If for some reason the water is clearer and I think that might be a factor I always have a few spools of fluorocarbon leader in the boat for just that occasion. It has a lot of advantages going for it as has already been stated, low stretch, near instant "feel" when getting a bite, really solid hook sets, abrasion resistant and the list just goes on. If you do any kind of fishing that requires heavy line or just want to get a feel for fishing braid I would just spend a little money on a quality braided line and try it out for a few trips and see what you think. Worst case scenario is you hate it and you've wasted $15 on some line so no real loss there!