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Jigs, Spinnerbaits and Sinkers => Painting and Finishing Lures => Topic started by: chainz on 02/17/16 18:40 UTC
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How would powder paint that you can make yourself be any different from the pro-tec stuff? Would it work when painting jig heads and putting a epoxy coat on top? Here is the video I found on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgzRafKvpqI
Dan
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I'll just use the jarred product. I think that the video was "sanitized" so the mess wasn't shown. I don't know of anyone who calls this stuff a hobby would be making that much of one color to paint a few jigs.
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Definitely wouldn't need that amount but with that I could make every different colour instead of paying 10 bucks for 1 jar of the stuff.
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Powder coat goes a looooooong way. And he's got way more than ten bucks tied up there. I wouldn't want the mess.
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Food dye and that is only like a dollar or 2. I might give it a go see what happens otherwise I'll have to shell out 10 bucks per colour
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Chains, buy your powder by the pound from Columbia coatings. Good powder paint. Suhre or sell what you don't use. Go in with a fellow bait maker, cuts the price down.
Columbiacoatings.com
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It's expensive buying paint from anywhere outside australia...it's actually expensive buying alot of stuff I need for lure making as the dollar sucks lol!
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How would powder paint that you can make yourself be any different from the pro-tec stuff? Would it work when painting jig heads and putting a epoxy coat on top? Here is the video I found on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgzRafKvpqI
Dan
That's not powder paint.
You're going to be in for a HUGE surprise if you try and use CORNSTARCH to for painting lead lures.
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It may work but not used as a true powder paint where you heat your jig before dipping it into the powder paint. I would think wetting your jig then dipping it in the home made powder would color the jig. Trouble there is I think your colors would be a candy color = transparent. Maybe if you used the color over a jighead that was powder painted white may get you a more solid color if that's what you are looking for ? I'm also not too sure what kind of coverage using the colored powder would be. I am thinking it would be hard to end up with a uniform coat of color ? Dunno.
A friend of mine who lives in Sweden turned me onto what they call Color Powder. They mix it with epoxy and add beads ( colored epoxy before it sets up ) of colored epoxy to hooks to make what they call colored hooks for Perch fishing. I experimented with it myself and the pic below is what I came up with. It was a tedious process to say the least.
I can't see how using the colored epoxy helps you with wanting to paint jig heads but it shows one way a guy can use colored powder for a different fishing related application.
(http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag60/lighthouse0812XL/FullSizeRender_zpsezvbwpdw.jpg) (http://s1298.photobucket.com/user/lighthouse0812XL/media/FullSizeRender_zpsezvbwpdw.jpg.html)
I don't know what is in the colored powder that my friend from Sweden sent me ( I can't read or speak Swedish lol ) but it does come in small multi colored kits that are ( I'm guessing ) readily available commercially in Europe or at least in Sweden anyway. If you really want to give this colored powder a go you may wish to track one of these kits down just to experiment with. If not, then I would try making a batch of your own and see how it goes. I have an Australian buddy that I help get things from the states much cheaper than he can so I understand why you want to pursue alternative ways making your own stuff = things are really expensive down under.
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That's not powder paint.
You're going to be in for a HUGE surprise if you try and use CORNSTARCH to for painting lead lures.
I'm agreeing with Cannibul.
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Thanks for the reply guys. Hey 2XL with the usd at 70c for 1 aussie dollar things work out real expensive.. But I have to order from overseas if I want do it colourant..
Maybe it will work out cheaper to get a airbrush and paint my jigs that way. 12 createx colours here are 60 bucks or I can buy them separately.
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Takes a lot more time and a lot of paint to airbrush jigs.
A pound of powder goes a long ways. If you're going to airbrush them then use white powder paint as the base.
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With powder being 10 bucks for 1 colour, I can get createx paint for 4 bucks. The price difference is starting to sway me toward airbrush and paint
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With powder being 10 bucks for 1 colour, I can get createx paint for 4 bucks. The price difference is starting to sway me toward airbrush and paint
I airbrush my spinnerbaits and you waste a lot of paint. I could do two or three for the amount I use but I like how they look and I can do different things with it. But if your doing a single color then powder paint in a flow bed is the way to go. Very little paint and when baked is hard as a rock.
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Not sure where you've been buying your powder paint but look outside the tackle end of things. Powder paint is powder paint.
I buy my paint by the pound, 453 grams. That will paint about 500-700 28 gram jigs. Most of the colors I use cost me $9-$15 a pound. There are a few that cost a bit more. But basic colors like black and white are very inexpensive.
Start searching for powder coating suppliers or talk to some powder coating shops. See where they buy their paint.
Buying it in small jars is very expensive. Pro-Tech which is marketed to the fishing market here runs $6.50 for 56 grams. I pay just over that for 453 grams of basic colors and no more than 3x that for most colors. There are a couple of colors that I pay 4X that but I'm getting twice the amount of powder for my money even on those.
As a last resort I'll offer to send you powder paint. Four pounds of paint can be shipped for $35 or 19 lbs for $76. If you've got friends you could split an order with it wouldn't be that expensive to get 19 pounds shipped.
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Am I missing something here? I don't see any comparison of this being anything close to powder paint not even close?
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I use various powder coat suppliers state side and ship to Australia. Yes it's not cheap but you build that into prices. We charge more for our goods at the end of the day.
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What got me into the airbrush idea was stuff like this
(https://scontent.fadl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/12472396_461042190756721_5945878268925333754_n.jpg?oh=3837aab0dae7df3d31f687d3267aa315&oe=57597C98)
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But that's not powder paint. My guess is that's dipped. If you look at the wire you'll see that.
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But that's not powder paint. My guess is that's dipped. If you look at the wire you'll see that.
X2!
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No no, I ment I am thinking of airbrushing the jigs so I can make stuff like that instead of powder painting them
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No no, I ment I am thinking of airbrushing the jigs so I can make stuff like that instead of powder painting them
But that's not even airbrushing. You need to look up dipping.
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That could be stress paint Lamar. It does that cracking thing when applied over a certain kind of undercoat.
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I messaged the bloke who made it and he said he airbrushes them
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I messaged the bloke who made it and he said he airbrushes them
Stress paint. Crackle pint. Several different names for the stuff but the same paint and technique.
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I don't think so. Look at the wire. It has a swirl paint on it like it was dipped.
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There's that. Stress paint is liquid so it could have been dipped too. Who knows.
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Looking close I'm 99% sure that spinner bait is dipped.
I believe it's called hydro graphics.
It looks cool but I'm fairly certain it's not airbrushed!
Zooming in it may have a touch of airbrushing over the dipped finish such as the light green band on the blade.
I'm not seeing a crackle finish here either.
At least not like ones I've seen before!
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Looking close I'm 99% sure that spinner bait is dipped.
I believe it's called hydro graphics.
That's it. I watched a video where they did motorcycle gas tanks with that. It was pretty cool. It was fast and easy. Never though of down scaling it to do fishing baits. But it's got me thinking.
I'm not sure what fluid they use but they take a small tank with this fluid and put black and green in it. The paint floats on top. Then take a pin and swirl it to give the lightning effect. Then take a drop of the green and put it in the middle and take the pin and make one line. This would give you the black on top and bottom and the bright green in the middle when you dipped it. If you look all three pieces are the same.
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The ones I've seen they had a tank of water.
Then they put a preprinted film on top.
That way they could do the same pattern over and over.
Such as realtree brand camo patterns.
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http://magicmarble.com/ this would work. I know netcraft used to sell it.
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Well there is a remote possibility that it is airbrushed but if it is he has another hobby, that being an AB artist because with the fine detail in that for which I have seen AB artists achieve without effort is from the best in the business, it looks to me like it could be both as I find it hard to believe that the green shading down the middle was achieved by dipping seems to accurate for all three parts, the 2 blades and the jig head but who knows he may have a secret he's not willing to share :( But back to the subject of this powder is it me that stuff is not being represented as powder paint at all it's just food colored corn starch? Where's the powder paint come into the equation?
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It's not powder paint at all. If it worked thend you can just paint your jigs white with plain corn starch.
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Right the original video is just colored cornstarch.
Not made to paint anything just made to have fun with.
They throw the colored flour bombs at each other kinda like a snowball fight.
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