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Jigs, Spinnerbaits and Sinkers => Request a Lead Mold => Topic started by: Agronomist_at_ia on 11/12/16 22:17 UTC
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I would like to see a mooska type lead mold. Really could use one with a number of sizes.
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Me too. That would be awesome.
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I would like to see some kind of ice jig as well. Somethung we could put size 8 10 and 12 hooks in.
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Yes! I also like to use those jigs under a bobber in the summer, not just through the ice.
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Shad dart is a geart ice jig. It about the same except it has the angle on the front that give a different glide in the water. I also use ice jig's in the summer on pan fish.
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Bump. would like to see a 3mm all the way to about a 7mm
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It would be a great addition to the molds and would probably fly of the shelfs like the wax wiggler is.
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We're talking a mold for lead or tin right? When people start with the mm lingo they are often referring to tungsten and I don't see a mold for that happening right away. But actually a lead mold in that shape might not be a bad one. Tin could be used to for an incredible slow drop rate.
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Ide say it would have to be lead. I don't think anyone will ever have capabilities to melt tungsten at home. Something that gets down to a #10 and #12 jig hook Is what I'm looking for.
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That would probably have to be a custom bent hook so the lead don't slide down. Or a live bait that has the barbs and a up turned eye if they make them in a #12.
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Maybe like the Do-it Wacky jig hook in a size 12?
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There could be some real issues with design as well. The legal type.
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A 3 to 7 mm Tungsten jig profile poured in lead would be GREAT. Including the same fine wire style hook the Tungsten heads use would put a mold like that over the top. I am sure it's possible but would it be economically feasible to produce such a mold ?
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I like the idea of a tiny jig just like the wacky jig. It would be a great ice jig and great in the summer casting for gills and crappies.
Or maybe a tiny Bat Jig. I love that jig for summer gills and crappies that are suspended. With the wire keeper if possible on some of the larger heads.
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Ctom, what is mm lingo?
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I assume Tom is referring to the fact tungsten jigs are measured by width instead of weight and lead jigs are measured by weight.
What ever design the jig is I would like to see it be balanced so that it hangs perfectly horizontal. I think most of us that ice fish know that panfish can be super picky in winter and many times if the jig is tilted any away from horizontal at all they want nothing to do with it.
The way most of us combat this is by tying a tight knot to hold the jig how we want it. It would be real nice to not have to real up and adjust the position after a missed fish or just toss it back down the hole after a catch instead of adjusting again.
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Duh, totally went over my head. Thanks MikeJ.
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Everything that references a jig's size in mm. Metric. Generally the thickness. I use hook size to determine the jig's size since most of the better commercial jigs either increase or decrease weight when they go up or down in hook size. The most common hook sizes in ice fishing are between a size 8 and a size 14. The European tackle makers [or should I say the Asian tackle market] using tungsten seem to like this mm sizing. I guess I'm just old school and prefer sizing my jigs according to hook size like I used to do all the time.
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How about an ice fishing jig like the moon glitter .
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You can buy those and a few other styles of unpainted ice jigs at Janns if you are looking to get a hold of some. They are a little tedious to paint but they work.
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Chubs if this is what you mean, you can buy the blade part from Jan's and soldier a hook to it.
I rarely use vertical baits anymore unless it's a spoon type lure. If you are using a vertical hanging jig you need to be sure the plastic sticks out side ways from the jig.
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my go to baits are the rat finkie and the moon glitter. I did do the soldier and tiny tear already they workout but i still prefer the first 2.
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There could be some real issues with design as well. The legal type.
I highly doubt it about every company has a jig in this design.....kinda like the acme kastmaster....every company makes it.
Just looking for a lead mold with a small up to a really large head. I know a guy could never pour tungsten. However it might be possible to put some tungsten powder or pellets in the mold then pour the lead in to glue it all together.
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Any work on if this is being looked at?
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Any work on if this is being looked at?
Your best bet would be model #1155
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Your best bet would be model #1155
Lol....a blank mold doesnt work to well. I'm really thinking an ice jig mold like this and some tungsten powder a guy could pour his own tungsten jigs.
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Anyone from Do-it gonna comment? I know it would be a big seller.
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I wonder, outside of a few ice fishermen, how many molds would have to sell to make creating a mold for this jig profitable? Then those flat eye hooks would have to be available in very small sizes. The design or shape of the jig might lead to casting issues when the break-off for the sprue is considered. I could see a rtv rubber mold for this jig style being done for spin casting as the break-off would be clean and flash at that point minimal, but I think a conventional mold would have issues.
As for the tungsten powder, it is available but by pouring some in a cavity and pouring in lead, the lead would float on the powder and not incorporate with it. Resin/tungsten could be done to make a paste and I have looked at doing something on this order. A couple ideas that came to mind were 1. to make a paste and fill each side of the molds cavities with it with one side a little high so that when the mold was closed the two sides of the paste would meet and fuse as the resin set and, 2. make a looser resin/powder mixture that could be poured into the gates with a spoon or small ladle. I was really leaning towards the first option until I saw how much a couple ounces of the tungsten powder would set me back just the play with the ideas. And then the resin would mean a no-heat paint job.
The popularity of the original Diamond jig brought out a ton of pirated copies, hence the wide spread availability by seemingly everyone who makes tackle. I think within a year or two these jigs will be all over the place as unfinished heads and will be too cheap to mess with a mold. Then all a guy will have to do is figure out how to get them gold plated cheaply.
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I wonder, outside of a few ice fishermen, how many molds would have to sell to make creating a mold for this jig profitable? Then those flat eye hooks would have to be available in very small sizes. The design or shape of the jig might lead to casting issues when the break-off for the sprue is considered. I could see a rtv rubber mold for this jig style being done for spin casting as the break-off would be clean and flash at that point minimal, but I think a conventional mold would have issues.
As for the tungsten powder, it is available but by pouring some in a cavity and pouring in lead, the lead would float on the powder and not incorporate with it. Resin/tungsten could be done to make a paste and I have looked at doing something on this order. A couple ideas that came to mind were 1. to make a paste and fill each side of the molds cavities with it with one side a little high so that when the mold was closed the two sides of the paste would meet and fuse as the resin set and, 2. make a looser resin/powder mixture that could be poured into the gates with a spoon or small ladle. I was really leaning towards the first option until I saw how much a couple ounces of the tungsten powder would set me back just the play with the ideas. And then the resin would mean a no-heat paint job.
The popularity of the original Diamond jig brought out a ton of pirated copies, hence the wide spread availability by seemingly everyone who makes tackle. I think within a year or two these jigs will be all over the place as unfinished heads and will be too cheap to mess with a mold. Then all a guy will have to do is figure out how to get them gold plated cheaply.
Do you or have you ever ice fished with 1-2# test for panfish ice fishing? A decent bass comes along and poof there goes a couple bucks. I think it be a pretty good seller. With all the tech in icefishing its getting to be a huge market
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As a matter of fact I have done quite well fishing with invisible thread used for quilting and it scales out at about 3/4 to 1 pound test. I landed a carp just shy of 16 pounds using it....thru the ice, so yes I've done the super light line stuff. Health issues really limit how much I can fish the ice any more but when I do I fish with 1/80 thru 1/16 ounce conventional collar-less ball head jigs using the same plastics I use for open water.
I just think a mold using two sides like Do-It's molds employ would not work well for tungsten or other high-heat heavy metals. A silicone or rtv mold might better suit tungsten.
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For sure losing a Tungsten jig or any jig to a fish sucks but it's the nature of the beast no matter what size jig a guy uses. I totally understand where you are coming from Ag. No doubt the market is there for more affordable Tungsten ice jigs. I would love to see a mold to make them too but at this point I don't think there is an economical/efficient way for the do it yourself guys like us to make them at home.
That being said, I would be thrilled if there were a mold available to make a lead version of those Tungsten style heads.
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For sure losing a Tungsten jig or any jig to a fish sucks but it's the nature of the beast no matter what size jig a guy uses. I totally understand where you are coming from Ag. No doubt the market is there for more affordable Tungsten ice jigs. I would love to see a mold to make them too but at this point I don't think there is an economical/efficient way for the do it yourself guys like us to make them at home.
That being said, I would be thrilled if there were a mold available to make a lead version of those Tungsten style heads.
Yeah....I agree can't believe Do it doesn't do a little more for the panfish/ice fishing markets.....I think it's bigger then open water up here by Minnesota anymore. Crossing my fingures.
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No doubt that the upper tier states hold court to the ice fishing and the ice fishing tackle development. I just think that the tackle end of the sport has some real issues that the crafter would encounter, like specialized hook designs and small sizes. To create the mold the prototype hooks would have to be available to design it.
I think that there are just too many little things that add up to a lot of the reason we don't see ice bait molds available. I make 1/80, 1/64 and 1/32 collarless ball-heads using sickle hooks down to #12 in all three sizes and lots of people buy them when they are happy with a horizontal presentation. These jigs catch as many fish as the much pricier fancy-pants tackle that ice anglers as a whole seem happy to spend way too much money for.
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Do-it has a crappie jig mold (3277), but it uses a straight shank hook. I was thinking about making these and bending the hook shank 90 degrees and seeing how they would work, but like a lot of things, I haven't gotten around to trying it.
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Do-it has a crappie jig mold (3277), but it uses a straight shank hook. I was thinking about making these and bending the hook shank 90 degrees and seeing how they would work, but like a lot of things, I haven't gotten around to trying it.
Been there done that.
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Crossing my fingers for a mooska mold.
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Crossing my fingers for a mooska mold.
You can wait for years or you can just spring for a custom mold.
They cost more but you'll have your mold a lot sooner.
Does anybody know if anyone owns the rights to this jig design?
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I'm pretty sure it's generic. I tried to tell you buy an 1155 and you'd already be making jigs.
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You can wait for years or you can just spring for a custom mold.
They cost more but you'll have your mold a lot sooner.
Does anybody know if anyone owns the rights to this jig design?
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The mooska jig being discussed is a foreign critter so I'll just assume that there are no domestic patents on it. Custom Jigs and Spins makes a jig called the "diamond jig which is similar but the surface is faceted, not smooth, and it is made in China. I'm not certain that Custom has any patent protection here but there is a ton of difference between the pictured jig and a diamond.
The tiny, very light wire, flat eye hook might be troublesome to round up though and the hook seems to be what gives all of these similar baits their action and makes then very preferred in ice fishing circles. They're compact and even lead ones are heavy for their actual size.
I'm in Kasilofchrisn'c court on this. A person can make a block mold to use with RTV silicone. Making some sprue plugs to go into the mold would be a snap with using a common countersink to cut indents into a block of plaster-of-paris and poured with lead. File a flat on the point of each of the sprue plugs and glue a jig on each where a break-off is wanted. Then glue the tops of the plugs to the centerline of one side of the mold. Fill the mold half way with RTV, insert a couple of guide pins and let it cure up. The next day spray the whole inside, or brush it, with release agent and fill the rest of the mold up with the RTV and set it aside for two or three days to cure solid. Take the RTV block from the mold and separate the halves and start casting away....if you can find the hooks.
I rounded up four different brands of size 10 and size 12 jig hooks of the 570 style. Then I got my hands on two different sizes of plastic, faceted, teardrop beads. The beads had a hole running thru them. Using a very thin craft files I cut slits in the beads from top to the hole lengthwise. Then I inserted hooks where I wanted them ad put a drop of super glue on each cut. I used craft clay to hold the beads while I laid the hooks and the glue was drying. Then I built a mold frame using 1/8" plexiglas and found the centerline on one long side before gluing that side in place. I used POP to make the aforementioned sprue plugs and did as mentioned to create a gluing flat on each and super glued the beads to the sprue plugs. I glued the flat top of ach plug on the centerline of the final side as described and then glued that final side in place. Everything was done as mentioned here to finish up. The height of the mold frame was 1.5", so the centerline was set at .75". The aluminum 1/8" guide pins were cut to 1.5".
Using the release agent on the first half of the mold made separating the halves a snap and all I ever do is put a small drop of oil on the pins occasionally. The hooks are not the flat eye but the jigs work great.
NO....I don't sell any of these. NO.....I am not making another mold. NO....I am not showing pics of this mold or the jigs simply because I do not trust other companies from using courts to get after me....AGAIN, since I've already been down that road. The molds are able to be made and if you want on bad enough you can make one. But honestly there are so many sources today for jigs of this basic design it is easier and cheaper just to buy them. The St. Paul [MN] Ice Fishing Show starts the first Thursday of December and runs for the next four days. There are vendors all over the place that sell jigs just like the one shown here in this thread and many of these vendors sell the un-finished product so people can customize their own finishes. If this show is hit on the Sunday one an find show-end deals like never seen before and I'd bet a person could buy a thousand of these heads for $20.00 just so the vendor didn't have to re-pack them. I'm pretty sure Kyle has been to this show, maybe not, but it is something to see and witness. To work entirely thru it will take about 6 hours and the seminars [all free by the way] are superb learning tools. Andy might have been to it. I've worked it many times with Thorne Bros and Marcum Technologies. The jigs can be made in a custom mold like I made or they can be found at sources like the show, but those flat eye hooks in light wire are going to be the real hold up in molds.
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From what I can tell most of the little ice jigs are using fly hooks. They are glued or epoxied into the tungsten.
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Those like the mooska and diamond jigs have a kink in the hook and the eyes are flat, not like a conventional 570 jig hook. The mooska has a smooth body casting and rounder nose while the diamond has facets or multiple faces and a flat nose but they use probably the same kinked hook. There's a definite off-set to it.
The mold I just described uses a 570 style light wire hook from Mustad. Its super light wire. I can't tell much difference in how it fishes from a diamond. Both conventional eyes and flat eyed jigs will twist the heck out of line if fished/jigged hard and when left motionless will spin like crazy and we all know spinning heads don't fare well with the fish. I use a small ball bearing swivel about two feet above the jigs using the same line as the main line and it helps eliminate the twisting some and really doesn't affect seeing or feeling the hits, even the very light ones. I do use 3# nanofil line for jigging these and its a very sensitive line to start with.
Over the years I've gotten away from much ice fishing but do use these jigs and jigging spoons fishing docks in the late fall/early winter and again in the spring. Same rigging, same line. To note though, I have a serious love affair with jigging spoons and prefer those over any jig designed for ice. 95% of my fall fish come on jigging spoons along dock pilings or sunken wood structure. If I need to downsize I'll tie on a jig made with the mold I made. Maybe the size ten, maybe the 12....depends on the fishs' mood.
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Still think it be a big seller
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Still think it be a big seller
I still think you'll have a custom mold in your hands long before you'll get one from Do-It.
I'm tempted to have an Aluminum one made just to prove my point.
But then again I don't have much need for the Marmooska.
Even a custom cut CNC Aluminum mold should be in your hands for this ice fishing season.
One fron Do-It is easily a year away if not two or more.
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Anyone know if doit is talking about a mold yet?
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Mine works awesome with a # 10 lil nasty in it for ice fishing. I think I'm gonna try some 12 this year too.
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I still think you'll have a custom mold in your hands long before you'll get one from Do-It.
I'm tempted to have an Aluminum one made just to prove my point.
But then again I don't have much need for the Marmooska.
Even a custom cut CNC Aluminum mold should be in your hands for this ice fishing season.
One fron Do-It is easily a year away if not two or more.
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I would have no idea how to have a custom mold made.
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Just buy a blank mold and find a machinist that can machine what you want. There are a couple guys online that do custom work as well.
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What about a tube jig like the 3217, style TA. It's a 1/32 and 1/16. size #6 AND #4 hooks. Maybe a smaller hook would work in it.
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I would have no idea how to have a custom mold made.
It's not rocket science.
Like others have said just contact a custom mold maker and give him your ideas.
Once you agree on the design and price he will do the cad work then cut your mold.
I recommend trying Shawn Collins customs and/or Bob Lalonde at CNC molds n stuff. I have molds from both of those guys but there are others out there as well.
No idea what it will cost you as every mold is different but you will get a custom mold for the jig you want usually in a reasonable time frame depending on how busy they are.
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Millimeters
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It's not rocket science.
Like others have said just contact a custom mold maker and give him your ideas.
Once you agree on the design and price he will do the cad work then cut your mold.
I recommend trying Shawn Collins customs and/or Bob Lalonde at CNC molds n stuff. I have molds from both of those guys but there are others out there as well.
No idea what it will cost you as every mold is different but you will get a custom mold for the jig you want usually in a reasonable time frame depending on how busy they are.
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I might have to look into it.
I've got a feeling with the panfish plastics and the popularity of ice fishing for panfish that Do it molds will be bringing out a mold.
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Any intrest in making one from Do-it yet?
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Bump
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Any intrest in making one from Do-it yet?
Just checked the Icast thread.
This is still not on this year's new molds.
Gonna be minimum of another year.
Unless you just get a custom mold made!
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Just checked the Icast thread.
This is still not on this year's new molds.
Gonna be minimum of another year.
Unless you just get a custom mold made!
Yeah not to interested in a custom mold. The "new" stuff for I sat wasn't to impressive IMO...
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Shad dart in 1/64 and 1/32 works awesome for ice time.
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I don't see this happening anytime in the near future. There are sources on the internet where one can buy bulk jigs in both lead and heavy metal very reasonably priced and virtually identical to the one pictured earlier in the thread. Casting issues and hook acquisition would probably be two areas that hang this one up. Why not buy a dozen jigs like what you want made and create a mold using rtv silicone? What's the old saying....."Where there's a will there's a way".
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I've got a couple of shelves of custom CNC lead molds.
Was so much easier than begging Do-It to make what I wanted.
Sure I paid more for them but it was well worth it by a long shot.
A homeade silicone mold would be a much cheaper yet still effective option as well.
It seems there is only one person here asking for the his mold anyway.
I highly doubt Do-It is even interested at all in making this mold.
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I'm sure a couple would sell but the time and cost of developing a mold like this would make it a no go due to low sales numbers. The hooks for a mold like this are a whole other issue.
The silicone would get the guy making his jigs if he found the hooks, but honestly with tungsten bare jigs available on the internet, ready to paint, for .20 cents each a person would have to be nuts to cast them in lead. In searching sites for hard plastic bodies for airbrushing I have come across three sites that sell tungsten heads just like the ones pictured elsewhere in this thread in 4 sizes at the .20 I mentioned.
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I'm sure a couple would sell but the time and cost of developing a mold like this would make it a no go due to low sales numbers. The hooks for a mold like this are a whole other issue.
The silicone would get the guy making his jigs if he found the hooks, but honestly with tungsten bare jigs available on the internet, ready to paint, for .20 cents each a person would have to be nuts to cast them in lead. In searching sites for hard plastic bodies for airbrushing I have come across three sites that sell tungsten heads just like the ones pictured elsewhere in this thread in 4 sizes at the .20 I mentioned.
LMAO.....none of the "casting" or pouring plastics saves anyone any money. Like this would be any different.
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Bump
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Com on doit.......get with the ice game.
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Honestly I think most guys just use tungsten jigs these days for ice fishing.
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I think you're right MikeJ. They use tungsten jigs in this area.
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Com on doit.......get with the ice game.
I’ve stayed off of this thread because I’m simply not as serious about ice fishing as I am open water fishing. Even though I only sit on a bucket jigging for pannies around a dozen times (average) per season, I have three molds that I use strictly for ice jigs, including one modified via dremel and JB putty to get exactly what I wanted… which is what I would recommend to you.
When looking at the current Do-it line up, as Walleye Wacker mentioned, I think the shad dart jig (https://store.do-itmolds.com/Shad-Dart-JigbrSz-164-132brHk-570-or-575brCollar-None_p_710.html (https://store.do-itmolds.com/Shad-Dart-JigbrSz-164-132brHk-570-or-575brCollar-None_p_710.html)) would be easiest for you to personally modify into a marmooska style jig like you’ve been hoping for simply by making provision for the hook to lay the other way in the mold.
Another option could be to carve out the collar on the 1/80 or 1/64 oz semi-custom jig mold (https://store.do-itmolds.com/Round-Head-JigbrSemi-CustombrSz-180brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Plain_p_1079.html (https://store.do-itmolds.com/Round-Head-JigbrSemi-CustombrSz-180brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Plain_p_1079.html)) to make your marmooska style jig; supposing this mold price might be too high to tinker with, then I think the roundhead reverse barb jig (https://store.do-itmolds.com/Round-Head-JigbrSz-180-164-132-116-18-14brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Reverse-Barb_p_528.html (https://store.do-itmolds.com/Round-Head-JigbrSz-180-164-132-116-18-14brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Reverse-Barb_p_528.html)) could also be an option for a similar modification.
If you are unwilling to modify a mold currently available, going straight to CNC (as others have suggested) might be your only other option to attain the exact mold you are looking for.
I have taken a couple tours of their facility and I'm sure Do-it would not be able to mass produce this mold through sand-casting as they do with virtually all of their other lead molds (because of the precise design and hook style you are looking for). Even if they could sand cast this, going from conception to design to production costs the company thousands, before they even sell one. Then they would have to sell hundreds in order to recoup their investments since they sell the vast majority of their molds at wholesale (to retailers where most people buy them).
I’m sure the company has analyzed their potential investments against the potential sales and given the age of this thread without response from headquarters, I think you might be beating a dead horse... which takes me back to my initial thoughts that a dremel and JB putty (or CNC) could have you in production much sooner than the time this thread has been around.
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Not to mention the need for a special hook to work in this application....costs for such? Another strike against. The biggest hit is that this head design is all over the internet as un-finished heads for near dirt cheap. I don't get it....why this has gone on and on when as you say its a dead horse EF.
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https://store.do-itmolds.com/Chub-JigbrSz-132-116-18-316-14brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Barb_p_458.html
Back when I thought I wanted to pour ice jigs I modded the 1/32oz in the cub mold. Delete the color on it with some JB and put a #10 hook in it. Works pretty darn well if you insist on lead
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The biggest hit is that this head design is all over the internet as un-finished heads for near dirt cheap.
Right, they certainly can be purchased cheap enough for individual use (or for resale); however, I also understand (all too well) the desire to make our own gear... this is where I tend to want my things to be unique to me, which is where I really get into the modifications.
I've used about every style of ice jig out there (including the requested marmooska) and I keep coming back to the 1/64 collarless roundhead jig because when pannies are just puffing the bait (biting light), it spins easiest into the mouth... sometimes just simple physics makes all the difference.
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https://store.do-itmolds.com/Chub-JigbrSz-132-116-18-316-14brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Barb_p_458.html
Back when I thought I wanted to pour ice jigs I modded the 1/32oz in the cub mold. Delete the color on it with some JB and put a #10 hook in it. Works pretty darn well if you insist on lead
I can see where this would work... I did a similar mod using a #12 hook on the 1/48oz minnow head jig (https://store.do-itmolds.com/Minnow-Head-Jig-weyesbrSz-148-132-116-18-316-14-38brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Barb_p_555.html (https://store.do-itmolds.com/Minnow-Head-Jig-weyesbrSz-148-132-116-18-316-14-38brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Barb_p_555.html)).
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I've used about every style of ice jig out there (including the requested marmooska) and I keep coming back to the 1/64 collarless roundhead jig because when pannies are just puffing the bait (biting light), it spins easiest into the mouth... sometimes just simple physics makes all the difference.
x2 - I'm also a fan, and you could add that it hangs, for the most part, horizontally especially with a knot positioned at the back of the eye, which can be hard to accomplish with some ice jigs on the market.
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x2 - I'm also a fan, and you could add that it hangs, for the most part, horizontally especially with a knot positioned at the back of the eye, which can be hard to accomplish with some ice jigs on the market.
Good point Kyle. Horizontal bait presentation is in my opinion the most important peice of the puzzle when it comes to bluegills. If that jig is hanging at an angle it turns fish off in a big way.
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To help with size perspective, here a picture of a 1/80 head on the left and a 1/64 on the right, both cast on #10 570BP Eagle Claw hooks and shown with the 1" Ice Tickler and one body segment and tail from the 1.3" Wax Wiggler.
(https://i.imgur.com/md1rLA3.jpg)
Rigged in any combination of weight or plastic shown, a very compact, active presentation can be made. The tie to the eyes of these hooks can be adjusted to achieve any degree of bait angle desired including absolute horizontal which can be imperative on some panfish bite. The eyes, aligned to the length of the hook will also minimize bait spinning as opposed to the flat eyes found on so many of the "diamond jig" style of baits today. I can't see the featured jig in the opening post and can't say if its a flat eye or not, but the diamond style of jigs are notorious for spinning regardless of eye disposition.
Anyway, with the heads and baits shown, this would be finessing at its finest. And available without fussing.
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Here are a few that were featured in a past Midwest Outdoors article done by our forum's own Marc Wisniewski aka Partycrasher.
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Link for the article, please. ;D
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Link for the article, please. ;D
I was unable to find the article online. It was an article in the 2017 December Midwest Outdoor Magazine.
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I look for a mold from do it soon......ice fishing is a way of life up north and a cult like culture. People live on the lake up north for days...weeks....months
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I look for a mold from do it soon......ice fishing is a way of life up north and a cult like culture. People live on the lake up north for days...weeks....months
Please hold your breath and wait for Do-It to make this mold.
I'm sure that if you do it'll come out sooner.lol
If your that desperate for this mold then why won't you just have a CNC mold made?
It'll cost you less than some of those doodads you have in your fancy Ice Castle shanty and you'll have a mold in a few weeks.
Or as suggested make one out of silicone!
Again you'll have a working mold in a couple of weeks if you have to order the silicone. Sooner if you don't.
Count me in as another disbeliever in the sales of this mold.
Meager at best is my prediction.
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Please hold your breath and wait for Do-It to make this mold.
I'm sure that if you do it'll come out sooner.lol
If your that desperate for this mold then why won't you just have a CNC mold made?
It'll cost you less than some of those doodads you have in your fancy Ice Castle shanty and you'll have a mold in a few weeks.
Or as suggested make one out of silicone!
Again you'll have a working mold in a couple of weeks if you have to order the silicone. Sooner if you don't.
Count me in as another disbeliever in the sales of this mold.
Meager at best is my prediction.
Lol.....you can be a disbeliever. I think it would sell well. I'm in to hurry. I have more lures then I could ever use. I'll hold out for the do it mold. 👍
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Lol.....you can be a disbeliever. I think it would sell well. I'm in to hurry. I have more lures then I could ever use. I'll hold out for the do it mold. 👍
Sounds to me like your not that interested anymore?
Willing to wait?lol
Even more reason for Do-It not to put this mold on their to do list IMHO.
I wasn't willing to wait on some of my ideas so I has custom CNC molds made.
Now I have what nobody else does.
And they work just like I planned!
But you can buy Marmooska's all day long at virtually any tackle shop. Guess that's another reason for Do-It to not make this mold. It's just a copy cat of other people's work!
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Sounds to me like your not that interested anymore?
Willing to wait?lol
Even more reason for Do-It not to put this mold on their to do list IMHO.
I wasn't willing to wait on some of my ideas so I has custom CNC molds made.
Now I have what nobody else does.
And they work just like I planned!
But you can buy Marmooska's all day long at virtually any tackle shop. Guess that's another reason for Do-It to not make this mold. It's just a copy cat of other people's work!
Lmao....yeah cause the round head jig wouldn't sell with that thought process. Or the blade baits......
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Any ice lure molds coming?
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It seems like this mold tweaked for the hook you want would work very well when poured w/o the wire keeper. Possibly putting the hook in backwards.
https://store.do-itmolds.com/Minnow-Head-Jig-wWire-HolderbrSz-148-132-116-18-316-14-38brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Barb_p_556.html
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If you turn the eye and bend the hook on the shad dart you have a much better jig. The 1/32 and 1/64 at awesome ice jig’s
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It seems like this mold tweaked for the hook you want would work very well when poured w/o the wire keeper. Possibly putting the hook in backwards.
https://store.do-itmolds.com/Minnow-Head-Jig-wWire-HolderbrSz-148-132-116-18-316-14-38brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Barb_p_556.html
Dang now I want that minnow head without the collar. That would work great for tiny plastics!
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It seems like this mold tweaked for the hook you want would work very well when poured w/o the wire keeper. Possibly putting the hook in backwards.
https://store.do-itmolds.com/Minnow-Head-Jig-wWire-HolderbrSz-148-132-116-18-316-14-38brHk-570-or-575brCollar-Barb_p_556.html
Reversing the hook position would be a great start on this. Grinding the plugs in the cavity off that create the eye pockets, with a Dremel, would be a good move too. The profile created in doing this would be very close to the diamond jig....or the mooska. And with some tweeking an 8 or even a 10 hook could get slipped in there
The teardrop mold in 1/16 using the wire keeper is very close to what the "mooska" style of jigs look like. Omit the wire, down size the hooks to an 8 or 10 and do a small amount of clean-up and there ya go.
The mooska style baits call for a flat eye hook and the hooks have a unique bend in them. My guess is that someone already has a grip on the hook's availability and that too might be another hang-up, but as Kal has suggested, the mooska style baits are way to easy to get for most people to want to dink with trying to make them.
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https://www.sheltfishingtackle.com/25mm-unpainted-ice-fishing-tungsten-jigs-p-149.html
I know this isn’t a mold but for the guys that like that style of jig here ya go.
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This Shelt's page might be even better....shows being able to purchase the 2.5mm, 3mm, 4mm, and 5mm in quantities of 25, not quantities of 100 which could get a little steep.
https://www.sheltfishingtackle.com/unpainted-ice-tungsten-jigs-c-13/
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Anyone from do-it care to comment on an Ice Fishing jog mold?
I seen in Jan you brought a new ice fishing plastic. Thinking maybe INFISHERMAN would do an article on pouring plastics and jigs for ice fishing....since the ice mag has become the same crap over and over the last few years.