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Soft Plastic Bait Making => Getting Started / Customer Support => Topic started by: Bubbabaits on 03/17/17 18:25 UTC
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Hey all, i am very new at all this. Just got my first injection mold last week and have been messing around with some different colors. I am using the essential series plastisol. Here is my issue, I started off with about 3/4 cup of plastisol, and added about 10 drops of bubblegum coloring. This maybe way to much, but like i said i am new just kinda winging it. Either way i shot about 40 worms and they all turned out amazing could not have been happier with the end product. Next i thought i would try some florescent pink. i used the same amount of plastisol 3/4 cup and 10 drops of fluorescent pink. This time the worms came out see through pink. This is a totally different look than what i was going for. i thought maybe i didn't add enough color so i tried 5 more drops.... still the same end product. What might i be doing wrong? Or is this just how this color is.
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Welcome aboard Bubbabaits. I think it's just the color. Most of my flourescent colors are see through. You can make them more opaque by adding a drop or so of white, or a pinch of pearl powder. I really like the see through in the sunlight. It makes the outer edges of the bait seem to glow.
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Ok i was kind of thinking that was the issue. They do look cool just wasn't expecting that when i open the mold. As far as the drops of color per 3/4 cup am I over doing it or just right? Thanks for the fast response!
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The more you add the more intense the color becomes. I think it's just a matter of preference. If you are happy with the color, then they are just right. Adding glitter will greatly change the looks of transparent baits.
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When i was down to about 3 mold shots with the bubblegum, i added a little glitter for the final runs. I was very surprised how dark it made them, they almost looked dirty.
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What color glitter did you add?
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There are some glitters that really alter the color dark green, black, Canadian blue just to name a few and like has already been said and a little white.
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I only got one kind to try and it is rainbow.
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I've never tried rainbow. I'll have to check it out. Have you tried any more injecting?
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Always stir all colorants before using, and it's a good idea to scrape the bottom of the bottle to loosen packed pigment powder. Add a stainless nut to each bottle for agitating, mixing. Fluorescent colorants will usually be less-potent than other colorants AND Fluorescents hard-pack worse than most other colors, exception might be White colorant...White hard-packs bad.
Fluorescents will be weaker and hard-pack worse than others.
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I would use 30 drops fluorescent pink, dash of blue hi lite and UV. ;)
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Welcome aboard Bubba....
As Thump Huntin has mentioned....."I would use 30 drops fluorescent pink, dash of blue hi lite and UV"....try that blue hi lite in the transparent pink for sure and try it in that bubblegum too. You don't need much but the blue hi lite will make any pink turn a corner that straight colorant won't take. The uv enhancer helps as well but use very small amounts of this. A b-b sized ball of the enhancer in 3/4 cup of plastic is a great plenty. Use slightly more of the hi lite powder in this amount of plastic too.
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I used to add only 10-12 drops X2 fluorescent pink to 4 oz plastic. I since then doubled this and like the result. I also started adding a smidge more blue hi-lite. The end result is a "wow your socks off" pink.
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Violet hi lite works much the same in pink. Blue hi lite in chartreuse does the same thing, especially a transparent chartreuse. Been doing the hi lite in fluorescent colors for years and every batch gets the hi lite, just like every batch gets the uv enhancer. Really makes the fluoro's pop.
I just did a firetail pink using the blue and its something else.
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Here's a picture of that firetail color done a little thin. From the left are the 2" paddle tails from the Ukraine, the 1.5" Ukrainian paddletail and a 1 1/2" Jacobs minnow. The firetail color has a bit of blue hi lite and the uv enhancer in it. The white here has zero colorant in it. There is uv enhancer and a spot of violet hi lite but the pearled look comes from super sparkle powder. Both that firetail and the super sparkle want to show the uv enhancer in this shaded picture yet there is very little in the plastic batches.
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This picture was taken in the shade. We have strong sunlight today and the camera's filtering went bonkers with the picture taken in the sunlight. The baits are on a mold back and the aluminum helps to settle the colors down a hair.
These were done as an order and it was the firetail color that sold the customer. Pink, yet it wants to show some orange too. Its a unique one to say the least and I like it over the traditional fluorescent pink.
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Is there any universal plastisol-dye ratio?
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Welcome to the Do-It forums VTfishing.
Listed in the Do-It store in the plastic colorant section showing the X2 colors you'll find a basic "drops per 4 ounce" batch for each of the colors in the listing. This drop count is only for the X2 colorants. Other colorant makers, M-F or Spike It for example, will require higher drop counts to get a full, rich color. People really have to find their own drop counts for their own personal finished color preferences. If you read back posts and threads regarding colors and recipes for colors you see a lot of reference to keeping a notebook handy to list the exact number for drops of colorant when developing a color recipe. A notebook is handy in that you'll have immediate recall for re-creating a color. But as for a universal recipe for colors? Nada....except for black.
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Each colorant has its own intensity, which you'll have to figure out.