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Title: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Jerry V on 01/15/13 21:40 UTC
I wanna hear from you guys that fish a C-rig once in a while.  What type of sinker do you prefer?  It's a technique that I've only begun to play with.  As much as I've tried to keep it all tied on, I just end up fishing something else that I'm more comfortable with in the end.

I've been using an Egg Sinker / bead combo and have a few troubles in my rocky structure getting hung up.  I thought about a Crescent Sinker to help things slide through that kind of structure better.  Is that a reasonable thought?...  It's not a slip type sinker (but I might be able to modify that mold a bit) and it starts at 1 oz.  Seems a little heavy to me, but maybe not.  I've been trying to stay around 1/2 or 3/4 oz.  Usually only in 10-20 feet of water anyway.

Any other sinker ideas? 

Thanks,
    Jerry
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: kipbass on 01/16/13 05:17 UTC
I fish C-rig a lot and love it. I use a standard slip sinker w/beads. Not too many rocks in Toledo Bend, or if there is I can't tell. If I hang up, it's usually a stump's root system. C-rig fishing is faster than T-rig in my opinion, so I cover more water.
I marshaled a BASS event here last June, and C. Pace fished it with an egg sinker and one bead. I had never seen it done that way. He caught a few with it, but had better luck with a jig.
I'll continue to fish it.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Lamar on 01/16/13 06:11 UTC
   I would think in 10 foot of water a 3/4 or 1 oz sinker in to heavy. We have always used an egg sinker and a glass bead. I personally don't c-rig unless it's the only way I can get a bite because we have found that we hook allot of fish deep. With the heavy weight and slack line you can't always feel the bite right away.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: matt on 01/16/13 06:36 UTC
I use a sinker slide then on that I take string of 1/8oz egg sinkers and clip on the sinker slide it will walk over anything you want to drag it over but I wish then you made a 1/32 and 1/16 egg sinker so I the can make 1/2oz and 1oz  know snag rig it looks funny if you are use to seeing a worm sinker :P
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Jerry V on 01/16/13 19:56 UTC
I use a sinker slide then on that I take string of 1/8oz egg sinkers and clip on the sinker slide it will walk over anything you want to drag it over but I wish then you made a 1/32 and 1/16 egg sinker so I the can make 1/2oz and 1oz  know snag rig it looks funny if you are use to seeing a worm sinker :P

You might be on to something here... like the "slinky sinker" with lead slipped into a parachute cord... you can change the weight by adding or subtracting lead weights and the longer profile helps to keep it more snag free. If I use the parachute cord to hold it all together I can use most any small "roundish" sinker... say a split shot or sling shot pellet.

One of our Catfish staffers showed me this a few years ago and I plumb forgot about it.  I think it could work well for where I'm trying to work, and it leaves room to play with the size.  Like this:

http://catfishtraining.com/no-snag-slinky-weights


Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: matt on 01/16/13 20:26 UTC
I don't like that I run modified sinker like this http://www.teamcatfish.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=469 (http://www.teamcatfish.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=469)
 sinker slide like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sinker-Slides-Sliders-Black-100-Count-1-Length-/221015626376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33758ed288 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sinker-Slides-Sliders-Black-100-Count-1-Length-/221015626376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33758ed288) my fishing part I put alot of time in this but people like to copy thing so I give up some things
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Jerry V on 01/16/13 20:46 UTC
I like that too... especially the sinker slide.

It's all the same idea really.  I'm just trying to figure out how I can make my own with the least amount of effort. (not that I'm a slacker, I just don't have any excess time or money) so I kinda like the parachute cord / boot lace idea.  This video makes it seem pretty easy:

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=F8RaSKgHc4E&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DF8RaSKgHc4E

 I think I'll give it a try this weekend and see what I can come up with. 
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: pjmcla on 01/16/13 21:29 UTC
Most folks I have fished with used either a traditional worm weight or an egg sinker. ( old school ) Water depth, line test, and current ( where present ) were the primary determiners of weight.  But; enough weight to feel the bottom type.  Mud vs sand vs gravel vs rock. Some say tungsten is THE weight for feel but it they are too pricey for me.  Flourocarbon really helps here.  Typically in 15 - 25 feet - 1/2 to 3/4ths was what was used.  Very little larger chunk rock in the lakes; but if you found some you really slowed down and worked it over.  Around rock; seems like egg style worked some better ( hung up but could be worked loose better ).   Bluff walls were texas rigged or Charlie brewer sliders.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Jerry V on 01/16/13 21:43 UTC
I've been trying the egg sinkers Paul, but I get hung way to often for my liking... I don't mind tying knots but I ain't that fond of it either...  I'm looking for something that won't have a tendency to get hung as much and I think the slender design might be the way to go.

I won't be sure of course until I can get some "soft water" around here, but I'm gonna try something.

Jerry
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: DobynsTriton on 01/17/13 17:19 UTC
what about something thats the shape of the do-it finesse drop shot sinker but with a hole in it like a egg singer & a slightly rounded nose? I use tungsten thats shaped like this & i can pull it thru shell beds (softball sized shells)& off shore rock without a prob.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Jerry V on 01/17/13 19:19 UTC
I wish I had a mold to make something like that, but I haven't, at least without some mold modification.  Though this brings another idea to mind...

The Line Grip Swivel that goes in the Do-It mold can be poured either direction.  One side has a line grip "V" and the other is just a round eye.  I think that would help me accomplish what I'm trying to do as well.  I'm gonna play with both of those ideas.  One or the other (or both) should be functional and help reduce some snags I would think.

I believe it was Hank Parker that I saw take a finesse drop shot sinker and bend it in a "C" shape to mimic a Lindy sinker.  They're pretty good in rock I've heard.  That might be another little adjustment I could make to it, but the fact that the slinky sinker isn't rigid and can move (like a snake) makes me think that it might be even less snaggy.

Time will tell I guess.  Thanks for the ideas guys...  suredopreciader.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: pjmcla on 01/17/13 19:55 UTC
I have found the slinky style sinkers to be the least likely to permanently hang up on rock and you get nothing back ( from cat fishing ). Especially combined with a small cork "pegged" on the leader side of the barrel swivel.  I guess feel is not the most critical aspect because you are fishing almost all rock.  The cork will dampen the feel a little as well but will aide in bait separation from the bottom.   I have found fishing the bottom in larger chunk rock leads to a lot of lost tackle and retying due to hangups & nicks ( esp. tailrace fishing ).   I try to vertically fish just off the bottom whenever possible.   
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: t-billy on 01/19/13 11:55 UTC
 I normally use a regular bullet weight with a bead. I don't go any heavier than I need to to maintain bottom contact. It doesn't hang up excessively, and when it does hang up, I can usually pull it free by pulling in the opposite direction I was retrieving it in. This thread got me thinking though. Football jigs are great in rock, so it stands to reason that a similar style sinker should be too. I'm gonna drill crossways through some egg sinkers this spring and see how they work threaded on that way.---Tim.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Muskygary on 01/20/13 06:31 UTC
Another thing you can use around grass is the lure body you make from the LB-5-A do-it mold. Works good as a sinker!
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Jerry V on 01/20/13 14:20 UTC
The weekend has arrived... well it's winding down now I guess, but I've made good progress on slinky sinkers:

fire up the melting pot and get everything warmed up.

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/YankeesWineight/DSC01685_zpsb93cacc0.jpg)

I poured the three smallest sizes in this mold about a dozen times


(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/YankeesWineight/DSC01680_zps6e853099.jpg)

And wound up with this after it was all trimmed up.  I cut the larger ones in half so I was predominately working with about 1/16 and 1/32 oz. pieces:

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/YankeesWineight/DSC01688_zpsb2df0848.jpg)

introduce a pair of boot laces that I got at the local "dollar store".

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/YankeesWineight/DSC01672_zps4690901a.jpg)

lop off one end and pull out the center.

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/YankeesWineight/DSC01677_zps1ec165cf.jpg)

make a tip on a soda straw and insert.

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/YankeesWineight/DSC01678_zps2b879199.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/YankeesWineight/DSC01679_zps6f4bd32b.jpg)

insert sinkers into straw and work them down into the bootlace.  Heat with a torch and crimp with a pliers.  Cut the lace and repeat on the other end.  Keep the torch on low, I mean just enough pressure to keep it lit.  We ain't starting the world on fire here... just melting boot laces.

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/YankeesWineight/DSC01691_zps7dd15dd4.jpg)

I drove a 18 guage nail through one end and installed a snap swivel. (#10 crane swivel and a #52 duo lock snap) all from Do-It.

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/YankeesWineight/DSC01692_zpsbdf86b6f.jpg)

and repeat again...

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/YankeesWineight/DSC01695_zps914f9112.jpg)

I won't know how they fish for a while yet, but I think I've got something that will help me keep my rig out of the rocky structure that IS my home water.  I just gotta play around with weight now.

Thanks for looking'

Jerry

Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Lamar on 01/20/13 15:26 UTC
  Now that's thinking outside the box. I like it !
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: pjmcla on 01/20/13 16:51 UTC
Thanks Jerry.  Those weights look really good.  Great step by step walk through.  The pictures along with the text make the process very clear. 
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: DobynsTriton on 01/25/13 17:31 UTC
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Mojo_Lures_Slip_Shot_Weights/descpage-MLSS25.html something like this possibly?
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: pjmcla on 01/25/13 17:45 UTC
DobynsTriton & all ---  The Do-it Lure Body mold - LB-5-A - will pour those.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Jerry V on 01/25/13 17:52 UTC
DobynsTriton & all ---  The Do-it Lure Body mold - LB-5-A - will pour those.

Yes, it will...up to 3/8 oz.  Here's a link:

http://do-itmolds.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_9_55

Might do the trick for this or other applications as well.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: DobynsTriton on 01/25/13 18:09 UTC
that was one section i didnt look in
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Jerry V on 01/25/13 18:17 UTC
that was one section i didnt look in

for some reason that mold seems to be easily overlooked even if you're looking in that section...  I'm not sure why exactly, it makes a pretty good spinner body and I didn't think of it either 'til he mentioned it.  We were talking about sinkers, right?... why would we be looking in the lure molds section.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: matt on 01/25/13 20:55 UTC
I like that sinker string ;D
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: Jerry V on 01/26/13 05:44 UTC
I have a much better understanding of that idea since you and I talked the other day Matt.  I kinda like that idea too.  ;)


Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: t-billy on 01/28/13 09:27 UTC
 Well done Jerry. Those turned out nice. I made some years ago. They're very snag resistant. The only real downside is lack of feel compared to hard sinkers.---Tim.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: long shot on 04/25/13 17:59 UTC
I sometimes use an egg sinker but I drill through the side to make it a football weight instead.  I get more hang-ups but it pops right out when you get behind it and give it a pop.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: bassonthejig on 04/20/14 13:32 UTC
I've used split shots lined up similar to the parachute cord w swivel.  I use braided line for it   If you get hung up shot pulls off always a + when you make you own split shot.
Title: Re: Carolina Rig Sinkers
Post by: basskat on 04/26/14 20:35 UTC
Take something like a spinnerbait wire, twist one end, add a bead then your egg sinker, add another bead and twist the open end. Make it about three inches long so the egg sinker can move back and forth. Tire your main line to one end and the leader to the other. This helps in chunck rock.