Thanks everyone for the help. I have two of the Essential Series 3" grubs and like them a lot. Everyone complains about the dull finish, but it doesn't matter to the fish. I am also thinking about picking up the CNC 3" ripper but wish it weren't so pricey for a single cavity. I also have it in an Essential Series, but I would like a little gloss. Anyway, I have crappie fished and catfished most of my life and was wondering what these fish exactly are. I know one is either a saugeye or walleye, and one is a smallmouth or largemouth, but I'm seeing different things, so I'm not sure any ideas? Sorry for going off course a little bit here.