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Offline Justin9j

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Jig Making
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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #16 on: 07/23/12 21:01 UTC »
I bought one of these skirt kits from bass pro. Comes with alot of tabs for you to start with plus the tool.

 http://m.basspro.com/DoIt-Jig-Skirt-Kit/product/10212541/143346

Offline Denny Welch

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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #17 on: 07/23/12 22:29 UTC »
Hey Kip,

I thought I'd jump in on this.  I've been pouring/painting/tying my own jigs for a long time and I'd like to share some of the things I've learned ...all too often the hard way.  (Lest I forget, Jason's story of the bare hooks cracked me up.)

MOLDS:  Do-It Molds is pretty much the main maker of molds and they have a good website.  You can buy directly from them, but you'll probably get better prices at Barlow's, etc.  They make a little over a million different molds so make sure you get the right sizes, and the right jig head...football, arkie, shakey head, Erie, etc.  Each mold is going to cost $30 - $50.

LEAD:  Forget the tire weights and only use soft lead.  You can tell if it's soft lead by running your thumbnail across the lead.  If you leave a trail...lt's soft.

HOOKS:  There are many good hooks on the market.  Personally, I use the black Mustad Ultra Point hook for most of my jigs.  It's a good hook, it's sharp, it's strong and it's affordable.  Owner also makes a good hook.

PAINT:  You've got to paint your jig head and, to me, that means powder coat.  Powder paint comes in many different colors.  I use a paint stripping gun to heat the jig head, a pair of hemostats to hold the hook, a fluid bed to hold the paint (it suspends the powder and avoids clumping) and a cup of water to dip the hot jig head into.  WAIT... THERE'S MORE.  At this point the paint is very soft and must be hardened by baking it in a small tabletop oven.  Hang the hooks on the grill or use a nifty holder sold by TJ'S Tackle...350 degrees for about 20 minutes and walaa.  Make sure the eyes are open before you bake them.

SKIRTS:  The easiest material to use is silicone strands which come in a myriad of different colors and patterns.  They are attached to the hook using a rubber collar. (Many complain that over time the collar is going to rot which will ruin the skirt.)

Personally, I prefer to use round rubber for my skirts.  To me, the rubber skirt pulsates more than the silicone and gives your jig a more lifelike appearance.  The rubber comes in different diameters and different colors and you can do some cool things with it.  One of my favourite colors is a black/brown skirt on a weedless 3/8 oz. brown w/ black sprinkles football head with a few strands of purple silicone and a couple thin strands of ultraviolet angel hair extending a couple inches beyond the skirt.  Follow that up with your craw  trailer of choice and you're good to go.  You're not going to find that on a shelf unless you make it yourself.

RUBBER COLLAR, WIRE, OR THREAD:  As stated, you run a substantial risk of the rubber collar braking over time.  I use wire.  Put the hook in the fly tying vise and place the rubber over the hook shank.  Use about 4" of 26 or 28 guage wire under the hook shank.  Hold one end of the wire with your left hand and with your right hand take two wraps around the rubber and the hook shank.  Twist the wire together and use a needlenose pliers to twist tight.

I will also use Flymaster Plus fly tying thread whenever I'm making a hair jig (great for smallmouth).  The thread will "dig in" to the hair when wire won't.

VISE:  Try to use a good fly tying vise when tying your jigs.  I use a Dyna King Baracuda.

As always, sorry about being longwinded.



Until next time.

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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #18 on: 07/24/12 00:19 UTC »
Very nice summary from Denny.

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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #19 on: 07/24/12 03:54 UTC »
As another juy who's made jigs a long time I can tell you Denny hit the nail on the head. Of course once you start making jigs; spinnerbaits and chatterbaits will come next. Your already pouring plastics and some day you'll buy a airbrush and start repainting crankbaits, then you'll want to make your own plugs from scratch. See how this hobby grows? (Sorry to get off the main point) :o :o :o

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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #20 on: 07/24/12 04:37 UTC »
Jason Sir, we can hardly wait 'til the Venerable CCM starts offering Their Molds for pouring Lead Jigs and Jigheads to go with all this Soft Plastic!  I, for one, have several bangin' ideas for some High Precision Jigheads.  "Scallop", number 1.  Then a solid, more standard Jighead for us Salt Boys...  I told You CCM was gettin' Salty!  lol
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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #21 on: 07/24/12 05:38 UTC »
Thanks Mr Denny. I always enjoy reading your post. I bet you're a hoot to hang out with too! 8)

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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #22 on: 09/25/12 20:23 UTC »
Update. I listened to my father in law which is usually a good thing. I used wheel weights instead of soft lead. I think I need to pre-heat the mold. Some of the lead didn't get down fully past the head; some did. Is there a way to clean off the lead from the hooks and reuse them? I hate wasting money. Did try painting one of the good ones. I think I need the fluid bed Mr.Denny spoke of. Any links to the site that sells the fluid bed is appreciated along with someone who sells the right pliers for cutting the sprues.
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Offline Justin9j

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« Reply #23 on: 09/25/12 21:13 UTC »
You can build your own fluid bed.  I have not yet. But I have read some on it. Search the net for plans. 

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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #24 on: 09/25/12 22:16 UTC »
Kip,
You will need to use either soft lead or at the very least, a mix of soft lead and hard lead.  Wheel weights won't work for intricate heads (won't fill past the head a lot of times).  Yes, you can stick the head back in the pot and tap the side, 90% will come off.  What is left can be cleaned off with a knife after it cools.  If pouring weedless jigs, I would highly recommend that you use either the teflon or aluminum pins.  If you mold the weedguard in, you will fight every jig you make to paint them, keep the guard from melting and or filling the guard with paint.  They are easily glued in later with D2T.  With the teflon pins, you can paint paint the head without removing the pin.  If using the aluminum, I cut dowel and use them in the open hole to keep paint out of it.

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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #25 on: 09/25/12 22:16 UTC »
Make sure to remove the dowel before curing.

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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #26 on: 09/25/12 22:21 UTC »
I'd probably start with Barlow's for supplies simply because they have most of what you'll need / use.  A good "gate" clipper is needed to cut the sprue...about $10.  You can also use needle nose pliers...twist back and forth a few times.  I also have some rough sandpaper around to "sand" the sharp edges of the sprue.

Lay your molds, opened, out in the hot sun for a while before you pour your lead, or use a heat gun.  You can also lay your mold over the lead pot for a little bit.  Hot lead and cold molds don't work well together.

Use needle nose pliers to dip the eye of the hook into the hot lead to get the hardened lead off your hook.  Chances are that hook will become yours to fish with, but it's still a good hook.

Hope this helps.

Until next time.

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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #27 on: 09/25/12 23:36 UTC »
For cutting lead sprues, I use Flush-Cut Nippers.  They're made for soft metals (lead) and other soft materials...do not cut harder metals with these.  The wheel weights are lead, but they're hard lead, with Zinc, Tin, and/or Antimony mixed in to make them harder so they can withstand their intended environment.  Hard lead doesn't flow as freely as soft lead, so it can have issues with small details, such as Barb Collars or further down on the "shaft" of the Collar.  You can flux Your lead mix to remove impurities, as impurities and small bits of trash can also ruin many'a pour.  I flux with the cheap Emergency Candles, just remove the foil cup and the wick.  Do a Yahoo or Google search on "Fluxing Lead" or "How to Flux Lead".  As far as saving the hook from an incomplete pour, it can be done, but it can be tedious.
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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #28 on: 09/26/12 04:16 UTC »
Kip, if You're wanting plans to build Your own Fluid Bed for Powder Paint, I bought mine (plans) off of eBay.  The guy sells the PDF for about $5, he emails it to You.  For a little time on Your part, You can build one for much cheaper than You can buy one.
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Re: Jig Making
« Reply #29 on: 09/26/12 04:20 UTC »
Also, me personally, I warm my molds by pouring my melted lead into whatever cavities I'll be using, several times, before I put any hardware in the mold.
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