Thanks Andy, I was posting it and received:
"Warning - while you were reading 2 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post."
Tom please be easy on 412, he drives a Honda with one of those zing zing "angry bumblebee's in a can" exhausts. He might not be all there at times from the resonating sound of "gggrrrrrrrziiiing Honda" on a daily basis.