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Offline floridagrimp

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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #15 on: 12/01/12 08:05 UTC »
Mission Impossible for you younger guys was a show long time ago where instructions on tape would burn up after so many seconds, after given to the team of secret agents. 8)
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #16 on: 12/01/12 08:50 UTC »
A soft plastic bullet weight would be a hit!  The hard nose of a weight or jig has always troubled me.

As anyone experimented with the maximum amount of HD you can put into plastic...and how that density would compare to common weight materials?
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No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #17 on: 12/01/12 10:11 UTC »
This sounds like a very good idea.   

Would the line cut through it in cover?   
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #18 on: 12/01/12 10:24 UTC »
This would be a sweet Idea, allowing you to color match your weight to your bait or offset the color combination for that shock and awe factor. Being able to have a weight created from plastic would allow so many more color options compared to powder paint.

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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #19 on: 12/01/12 10:42 UTC »
guess Jason will have it out by Jan 1...or sooner. Caney explodes to a whole new level!!! :o :-\
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #20 on: 12/01/12 11:32 UTC »
I'm betting that the HD additive will make it tough enough....if not.some chopped glass fiber would!
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #21 on: 12/01/12 12:54 UTC »
I'll give it a go with hard, may need to add hardener as well.  I think size could become the biggest issue.  We'll see...
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #22 on: 12/01/12 15:10 UTC »
This is not me freaking out, it's me keeping me eyes open with anticipation:

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Great idea, can't wait to see the results.
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #23 on: 12/01/12 20:08 UTC »
Quote from: Jason on 12/01/12 12:54 UTC
I'll give it a go with hard, may need to add hardener as well.  I think size could become the biggest issue.  We'll see...
Scorching could become an issue with too much hardner. I tried making some extra hard plastic last year. I wanted to dip a steel rod into an exra hard plastic formula to make a tube then, cut it into rings to go around wacky worms in an effort to increase durability. I don't like using o-rings. The horizontal hook position snags a lot more weeds. Anyway, when I tried adding a lot of hardner to the plastisol it would scorch before I could get it up to temp no matter how slow I heated it or how much I stirred.   I was adding a LOT of hardner though. I made a few attempts with a 50%plastic/50% hardner mix first, then cut it to 75/25 still no go. I gave up there. I figured anything less wasn't going to give me the result I was looking for anyway. Just something to look out for. You have an interesting idea. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with.----Tim.
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #24 on: 12/01/12 20:46 UTC »
I made up some 3" Super Smooth Tubes, with the body's 100% full (not hollow),  this am with the 2 tablespoons of HD to 4 oz of plastic and then took them over to the sand pit to test....and they sure sank FAST!

I'm trying to figure out how to make a 3' (or more) clear tube that is at least 3" in diameter to test sink rate. Anybody have any ideas on a clear tube this wide...and long???
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #25 on: 12/01/12 21:30 UTC »
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #26 on: 12/01/12 22:24 UTC »
Necessity is the mother of invention.  My crystal ball and tarot cards are telling me it won't be too much longer and lead will be a thing of the past.  The absence of lead will leave a huge gap in our sport that will have to be filled.  It is waaaayyyy beyond my skills or analytical capabilities to guess whether the HD additive will be able to fill that gap, but I'm encouraged by the way some of you are talking.  Besides, I'm still busy trying to get catfish teeth out of my knuckles.
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #27 on: 12/03/12 11:29 UTC »
I KNOW YOU CAN GET PVC PIPE THAT IS CLEAR BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS AND I'M SURE YOU'D HAVE TO ORDER IT.I WORK AT A DUPONT SITE AND WE'VE USED IT HERE BEFORE.
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #28 on: 12/03/12 11:57 UTC »
As I understand it Tungsten is hard to work with ( temperature and toxics ) and costly.  That is why the tungsten worm weights are so expensive.
Bismuth is not to bad to work with but expensive compared to lead.  Tin is light, easy to work with; but also expensive.  Steel is tough to work with.  Look at the lead shot for duck hunting ban and this is probably where we are headed.       
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Re: No lead...shaky...with the HD Additive
« Reply #29 on: 12/03/12 12:30 UTC »
For metals, this will be the deal for those who pour their own.  I'm curious to see the HDA Weights.

Just for comparison, I dug up some weights of common metals, each is in Pounds of 1 cubic foot...and their Melting Points...

Aluminum 168.48 / 1220 degrees
Antimony 419.99 / 1170 degrees
Bismuth 611.00 / 520 degrees
Cadmium 540.00 / 610 degrees
Lead 707.96 / 621 degrees
Stainless Steel (18-8) 494.21 / 2750 degrees
Tin 455.67 / 450 degrees
Tungsten 1204.41 / 6150 degrees
Zinc 445.30 / 787 degrees

Not all are useable for most of us due to the High Melting Point.  Zinc and Tin are useable...meltable.
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