Twinjector

[DobynsTriton]

this might sound funny but how far are you putting the injectors in the cup &  are u pushing some out back into the cup?I try to only put mine in far enough to come up to the textured part of the nozzles then push out a little to make sure both colors come out at the same time

[andrewlamberson]

I'm sticking with too hot. What temperature are you shooting at? Since this bait does not have small appendages I would suggest you go as cool as you can. Probably about 310 or 320.

Shoot very very slowly and with very very very low pressure. Try using just a couple fingers to gently fill the mold.

It sure looks like to me you are filling the mold to quickly.

Do you have some other variables going on here? For example, are you using softener? Worm oil? CCM Medium plastic?

You are using the bar across the top of the injectors...correct? This helps make sure you are applying the same pressure to both injectors.

[superharmonix]

After looking at that picture, I tend to agree with Andy.  Too hot- I had the same issue when I first got my Twin, I was shooting too hot, and putting way too much pressure on the injectors.

Get your plastic up to temp, then let it SIT.  Get it as cool as you can and play with it.  You should be able to inject at 305-310, and at that temp the colors won't tend to blend, and the viscosity is less so if you are a natural heavy handed one, it will be less of an issue for you there.  Try it and post some pics.  Together, we will get this handled.

[CrabbyBass]

I really appreciate all the feedback. I will go out and try it again tonight. I will take all of your suggestions and post how it goes. My injector is not so smooth yet so when injecting I put both hands on both injectors and push down slowly. Maybe this is screwing things up. I just cleaned out the injectors to see if it smooths them out and it is still a little sticky. @ DobynsTriton, I do not inject back into the cup, but it makes perfect sense. I will give that a try as well. Thanks again guys! You are all awesome!

By the way Josh, I will be sure to send you ALL of my rejects.  Ya right! 

[DobynsTriton]

let us know how it goes!

[andrewlamberson]

Putting a lot of pressure on an injector with 300+ degree plastic is a significant safety hazard!

Take the injectors apart and make sure they are clean and then lube  the friction surfaces with worm oil. Also, make sure the connectors are not too tight and causing binding. If you can't get to inject with very little pressure...send them back and ask for BT to check them and/or replace.

Really....needing to put ''pressure'' on your injectors...is really...really ... dangerous.

[pjmcla]

One of the reasons the walls on the Bass-tackle twinjector are as thick as they are is due to the amount of pressure you can apply via the middle brace.  This can cause some binding if you get over zealous on tightening.  Don't ask how I know this  .  Cleaning /  worm oil before use as Andy says.  It looks as though your Green is wrapping around the pearl.  Viscosity differences can be at least a partial culprit here.  I really like heavy pearl bellies and a transparent back will wrap if you don't watch your technique real close ( even on my small baits ). 
You are used to seeing those razor clean lines that the laminate plate is capable of producing which is difficult to obtain with a twinjector especially with differing viscosity colors.   
One of the things that really impressed me about some of the DD gill picture postings was how clean the laminate lines were; but this bait is an almost perfect 50 / 50 down the middle mold with no internal obstructions (I. E. no hook slot, belly bulge  ).         

[CrabbyBass]

Thanks again guys!  I took the injector apart and cleaned out the plastic remnants in there.  I put worm oil on the o-rings and also the plunger shafts that come through the top cap.  I make sure the caps are loose.  It still binds up a little bit.  There is no way I can inject with only one hand.  Maybe I will give BT a call.   

I am 100% convinced I am not going to get a clean looking laminate with the twinjector on the Wittle Wutz.  It is just not going to happen.  No matter what I do or try, nothing works.  I tried letting the plastic cool down, same issue.  I went even cooler, same issue.  I tried turning the blending block, same issue.  I even tried making the bottom color hotter than the top, same issue.  Back to the laminate plate it is.  I tried other molds and had no issue at all.  By the way, I was able to come up with a pretty cool color combo by mixing up used plastic.



I hope no one wants that bottom color, because I have no idea what is all in it.   

[DobynsTriton]

mine does that too on swimshads. i think its because top/bottom it has too much area to fill.

[biglewers]

YOu can get a clean lam.  when you are injecting.  Your top color may be a tad hotter than the bottom color.  Also.  It looks as if you have uneven flow rate into your mold.  The green ran over the pearl.  1. Because a tad hotter than pearl and 2. Because uneven flow rate.   Also  how are you clamping the wuz-it?

[TheDreamer]

YOu can get a clean lam.  when you are injecting.  Your top color may be a tad hotter than the bottom color.  Also.  It looks as if you have uneven flow rate into your mold.  The green ran over the pearl.  1. Because a tad hotter than pearl and 2. Because uneven flow rate.   Also  how are you clamping the wuz-it?

The swim shad mold will always have a dip into the belly if you do not pour it in first due to the large drop in the mold. I prefer to pour the belly in and shoot it with a single color to fill the top/tail section of the mold. If I am doing a vein shot or 3+ colors then I will break out the blending block. I will be posting some pics shortly to show what I am talking about.

Drew

EDIT:No lami plate used on this, don't think I could pour it any closer without going over. I will get some swim shad pics up soon, I will break out the camera and not use the phone. I have finally mastered the skinny vein Swim Shad for those of you that have seen my skinny vein Wutz-it. Pics to come soon.

The back and vein both have .015 Canadian Blue and the belly is pure pearl, no powders/hi-lights.

[CrabbyBass]

I am happy with the way the swim shad turned out.  The colors are separate and it looks fairly clean.  That dip in the middle does not bother me in the least.  It is that darn wittle wutz that is driving me insane.  I took some to work to show people and they said it doesn't bother them in the least. 

biglewers, I am clamping with a Irwin 6" XP Quickgrip clamp.  I messed around doing different things and even tried making the bottom color hotter than the top and the same thing happened.  I think it is the mold. 

Nice shot Drew!  That looks awesome!  I am going to have to try handpouring the belly and using the twinjector for the top.

[superharmonix]

Thanks again guys!  I took the injector apart and cleaned out the plastic remnants in there.  I put worm oil on the o-rings and also the plunger shafts that come through the top cap.  I make sure the caps are loose.  It still binds up a little bit.  There is no way I can inject with only one hand.  Maybe I will give BT a call.   

I am 100% convinced I am not going to get a clean looking laminate with the twinjector on the Wittle Wutz.  It is just not going to happen.  No matter what I do or try, nothing works.  I tried letting the plastic cool down, same issue.  I went even cooler, same issue.  I tried turning the blending block, same issue.  I even tried making the bottom color hotter than the top, same issue.  Back to the laminate plate it is.  I tried other molds and had no issue at all.  By the way, I was able to come up with a pretty cool color combo by mixing up used plastic.



I hope no one wants that bottom color, because I have no idea what is all in it.   

The blend on this lam looks VERY realistic, CrabbyB.  Fish in the wild usually don't have perfect lines anyway.   
Go with it!

[CrabbyBass]

Thank you Shawn!  I am happy with it too!

[kipbass]

I have a fluke style mold from Bears with the hook slot. I can't get a clean lami with it either. So far it's the only mold of mine that I can't shoot.