CCM Plastic

[CrabbyBass]

Have to get this site going again!  Posts have been few lately.  Anyway, I made the jump to CCM plastic.  We were using another company's plastic and have been really happy with it.  After hearing all these great things about the CCM plastic we decided to switch.  I ordered it on Weds and it arrived today while I was home for lunch.  I wanted to pop it open and run a batch, but I contained myself.  LOL!  I also ordered a pound of the HD additive.  I cannot wait to try out both products tonight. 

[zsipes]

I don't anticipate any disappointment from you.  I do suggest that you rotate the box before each use to make sure you don't have any separation within the formula.  This stuff is super clear! CCM plastisol is the top of the line in my book.

[DobynsTriton]

dont forget  heat stabilizer itll keep the plastic happy when working with bigger batches

[CrabbyBass]

Ya, I cannot wait to try it out.  The stuff I have been using works great, but it smokes and smells a lot.  Hoping the CCM will not smoke or smell as bad. 

DobynsTriton, Good point about the heat stabilizer.  I have some, but don't use it as often as I should.  I work with smaller batches as I am making a bunch of custom stuff for guys.  A bag of this color and a bag of that color.  Wilks19 has the big CCM injector and works with the big batches of colors.  He is a workhorse when it comes to guys ordering big quantities of a certain color.  I am going to have to teach him how to do what I do and he is going to have to teach me what he does.   

[ctom]

I've used plastic from four sources and the CCM Crystal Clear is tops. I used on from another company and the neighbors though the garage was on fire when I had the door open to get rid of the smoke.

[wubbawurm63]

Best move I ever made when I went to CCM plastic! Very easy to use and better finished product.             Bob

[wilks19]

Thanks Crabbybass.  I do want to learn your techniques and plan on doing that soon.  Once we get these orders out, that is my mission.  I also want to master that twin injector as that sucker is sexy.  As far as the "big batches", I love doing those.  I enjoy making a bunch of plastic and having 12-15 molds ready to be injected.

[Frank]

I don't anticipate any disappointment from you.  I do suggest that you rotate the box before each use to make sure you don't have any separation within the formula.  This stuff is super clear! CCM plastisol is the top of the line in my book.
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Want to play devils advocate here. I have had problems with it yellowing way to fast lately. I use it to dip heads of baits after putting on eyes and lately it yellows fast. I can't even use it for that now. Funny thing is I use the one that bubbles a lot to do the dipping. Heat it let it set and reheat. Will stay clears for an hour or so now. The cc only stay clear for about 30 minutes max. Any body else have this happen? Frank

[ctom]

Frank.....

I guess I've seen some issues of this nature but then I don't do a whole lot of eyes.

When this jumped up at me I just juiced the dip plastic up with stabilizer and then heated the new plastic only to 340 degrees ans spent time after this heating stirring the plastic well so I didn't have any "white" plastic at the bottom and on the sides of the cup. I let this plastic rest long enough that I could lift the mass and flip it over in the cup and then I reheated it slowlyand in increments, I usually would see one side of the plastic go liquid before the rest and on that side I had a sufficient puddle of clear to do my dipping. Some of these cups of plastic went for ten or 12 reheats before I noticed any yellowing at all.

I am using a 4 ounce cup too. The smaller batching is easier for me to control the melt rate, etc. I think you are maybe doing larger batches and dipping larger baits. Still I think toying with some options might help out Frank.

[BassDetective]

I have had the same experience as CTOM.  I now won't go with more than 4 oz.  Larger batches are just too hard to get even heating across the plastic.  I also will pre-heat my cup in the microwwave which seems to help a little

[ctom]

The only time my dipping plastic sees 350 is on the initial cook. After that I stop as soon as I get a puddle to dip in and that is usually right around the 320 degree mark using a shoot and read digital. The plastic will continue to heat AFTER it comes out of the mw and I suspect that for many this is where problems with yellowing plastic fall, they don't take into account the continued cooking.

[Frank]

This happens in a 100 cc beaker. After first heating it just yellows. The temp stays at 310 while on the griddle. Not to hot and the other plastic is in the same container. It does not matter if the batches are big or little. But when I first got the plastic it did not do this.

[ctom]

That's weird Frank. I'm haven't a clue. I don't have issues at all as long as I watch my heat closely.

I just added some gold hi lite to a small amount of clear that had yellowed just a wee bit and used it in some nbelly color on a split color shot. Worked great for that but that same clear plastic had been re-heated/re-melted like 15 times before I noticed any yellowing and even then its was slight.

I'm doing an 1100 watt mw and cook, re-heat, re-melt everything on high and just adjust the length of time it is under fire.

Hot spot on the grill surface you aren't aware of, maybe?

[CrabbyBass]

I have had the CCM (Do-It) plastic for about a week now.  Wilks19 and I have been using it and have been pleased with it.  I am going to have to get used to that new smell though.  It is not awful, but it is a different smell than I am used to when making lures.  When you get used to a smell you hardly notice it after a while, but then when you bring in something with a new smell, you surely notice it.  Plus I have a nose like a dog, so the difference in smell is more evident to me.    It seems to me the CCM (Do-It) plastic sets quicker than the one I was previously using.  Seems like the skin forms faster and you can demold quicker.  This is a good thing.  It helps when hand pouring because then I am not wasting time waiting as long for the plastic to set to close the mold and inject.  One thing I did notice is that the lures come out more dull with the CCM (Do-It) plastic.  I took a pic to show the difference between the two.  The lure using CCM (Do-It) plastic is on the right.   



Anyway, this is my review for now.  I am sure I will find more positives as I use it more. 

Chuck

[Brent]

This happens in a 100 cc beaker. After first heating it just yellows. The temp stays at 310 while on the griddle. Not to hot and the other plastic is in the same container. It does not matter if the batches are big or little. But when I first got the plastic it did not do this.

Frank
Are you saying that when you first started you had no problems but are now having issues with the same plastic out of the same container? Maybe there has been some type of settling or separation happening?