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Offline ctom

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Snootie, re-born
« on: 07/18/13 15:25 UTC »
Up here in the cool weather [tongue-in-cheek] part of the country, walleye angler on the Mississippi use a jig technique called dragging. Like anything involving walleyes, this technique can get complicated especially when the river comes up from spring run-off or heavy rains. Dragging will continue to be productive but jig weight really needs to increase with the heavy flow. There are a couple jigs made today that focus on the dragging techniques but they top out at around 3/8 ounce and sometimes that's cutting the weight short. Enter the Snootie made right here by Do-It.

First off walleye anglers aren't needing weed guards, so my initial thought was that this aspect had to go. Then that ball keeper had to sail, but the head would still need something to grab plastics and Do-It's wire keepers seemed a likely culprit so I set out to solve some problem. JB Weld's high temp epoxy putty came to the rescue to close off areas I didn't want. Then some simple hand filing and a buzz or two from the handy moto-tool and I was set for the maiden voyage. Here they are....



From the top downward they weight 3/8, 1/2 and 5/8 ounce. All are cast on 4/0 black chrome hooks, the purple being Sickle hooks and the standard hook shape being the Mustad that Do-It sells for this jig head.

The 60 degree leg allows this head to pull line-forward more than the traditional 90 degree legs and for dragging this is needed. I don't fiddle with eyes on jigs, but they'd sure be pretty on this head.
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Offline andrewlamberson

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Re: Snootie, re-born
« Reply #1 on: 07/18/13 16:00 UTC »
Wow! I like it! A lot!

How did you get the wire keeper to fit???  How did you cut off the ball keeper?

I make most of my Snooties without a brush guard by cutting the standard aluminum pins a bit short, and then trim off the stub and rub smooth.

The Snootie does a super job of hooking the fish in the top of the mouth. I've been using the smallest size (1/8th oz) with a white skirt for bass the last few weeks and the smallmouth really like it. I really prefer it without the weed guard.

I would really like to see Do-it sell a version like you show below that works with all the Do-it grub baits like the 3"  chub grubs (I have them all!) and the Glider .  Maybe just a big more flat across the back so the grub fits really nice.

That combo was a hot walleye bait for me this spring. I was just crazy gluing the grubs onto the ball keeper...it worked but not as well as it could. I like the wire a lot better!
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Re: Snootie, re-born
« Reply #2 on: 07/18/13 19:00 UTC »
How did you get the wire keeper to fit???  How did you cut off the ball keeper?
 
" the ball keeper...it worked but not as well as it could".........

You're in luck big guy. On Monday the 29th I have to deliver Ma to the Am Trak station in Winona. I'll bring the mold and show you first hand what changes I have made and how they got done.

Your comment on the ball keeper is shared amongst many hard core walleye anglers. Most all of the river boys prefer the wire holder. Cold water and cold weather in conjunction with a molded barb or ball keeper results in lots of ripped and torn plastics. The tearing is one reason I have gone to collar-less heads exclusively. I can adapt a mold to accept the wires with no trouble at all and actually a straight length of wire cast in the head running along side the hook shank does enough to hold plastics real well with a drop of super glue.

I'll drop you a note when I know what the time-frame is going to be on that Monday to see if we can connect.
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Offline WALLEYE WACKER

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Re: Snootie, re-born
« Reply #3 on: 07/26/13 02:41 UTC »
CTOM  How dose the JB weld hold up to the heat. That is a great looking jig. would you sell a doz. of each size of the Snootie unpainted. In that mold is there 1/8 & 1/4 also? And do you pour any of the lighter ones with weed guards for dragging crawlers in the weed line? Sorry I didn't  look and see that the lighter jigs were in a different mold unless you have both molds. mike 8)
« Last Edit: 07/26/13 02:48 UTC by WALLEYE WACKER »
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Re: Snootie, re-born
« Reply #4 on: 07/26/13 07:37 UTC »
WW....

I used the high temp JB putty in this transformation and it seems to tolerate the heat of casting fine.

The mold I have casts the heavier heads, nothing under 3/8 ounce. I'll note here too that I only cast 4/0 hooks in all of the cavities. The 5/0 and 6/0 called for in the 1/2 and 5/8 heads are way too large for any walleye fishing in this area. Right now I have the mold parked as I am busy with a bunch of other things, one of which is a Grand-daughter's wedding today. Generally I don't do too much jig casting at this time of the year because its too warm in the garage with the smelter and the weather....my old lungs suffer. I won't do too much casting until late September but if I get a shot of cooler weather and have to fill an order I'll make some up for you sooner.

This wedding stuff has brought back family from Spain for three weeks and they take time away from stuff too. The kicker is another wedding, Carole's daughter, in late September and that's going to take chunks out of my time too....already started to.

Seemds like this never ends.
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Re: Snootie, re-born
« Reply #5 on: 07/26/13 09:44 UTC »
ctom Enjoy the wedding's and time with family. Can wait till late winter or spring 2014. mike
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Re: Snootie, re-born
« Reply #6 on: 07/27/13 15:00 UTC »
I like that deal a lot!! I'm a bass guy  so the stock Snootie is fine but it is one of the most versatile jigs I ever made and used. I use it as a swim jig, a jig for fishing hollow body swim baits (which is why this modification interest me), a chatterbait, and a flipping jig.  The question I have for you is what kind of weight does the 3/8oz head have without the collar? What is the difference between regular JB weld and the high temp epoxy putty? I would love to make those in the 3/8oz with a wire keeper for the hollow body as well as the solid plastic swim baits as well as some lunker grubs but JB weld has really made a mess of my molds before so I've been trying to find something easier to work with and I'm hoping the putty will be the ticket.

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Re: Snootie, re-born
« Reply #7 on: 07/27/13 16:45 UTC »
I'm not sure just what the weigh of a 3/8 head is without the collar but I don't think the collar amounts to much weight.

The high temp JB Weld putty tolerates heat upwards of 900 degrees while the JB Weld probably will run or pll after a couple casts heat the putty up where direct contact with the lead occurs. As far a handling and messing things up, I thought the putty mixed fairly easy without a whole pile of mess beyond fingertips and it handled fairly well. It does set up a bit quick. I found maybe a 10 minute window where handling the mixed putty was not bad. When it stiffens up, it stiffens up quickly. I chose to work with smaler and more managable amounts.

Simple hobby files and a Dremel tool took care of all the shaping and I thought the putty was easy to work after it had hardened.
There are good ships
and wood ships
ships that sail the sea
but the best ships are friendships
and may they
always be ......An Irish Toast