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Re: Caney Creek's New Plastic
« Reply #15 on: 06/03/11 11:38 UTC »
Jason, before I put in my order, I was wondering if you had any idea of what the normal cost will be on gallons or larger sizes, not including shipping. Its nice to get a great product but cost becomes a factor as well when people expect everything for $5 a pack.

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Re: Caney Creek's New Plastic
« Reply #16 on: 06/03/11 12:09 UTC »
Hi Mike,

The normal price on one gallon including shipping will be $54.99.  I don't anticipate this going up (if it did you would probably see all plastic go up, not just ours).

This is a premium product, with that said, I think if you compare the total cost of other "premium" plastics, with shipping, it is still very competitive.

We will release pricing on the other sizes closer to them being available.

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Jason
« Last Edit: 06/03/11 16:30 UTC by Jason »

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Re: Caney Creek's New Plastic
« Reply #17 on: 06/04/11 17:02 UTC »
Hey Jason,

I know this is my first post but i always have been hanging around reading.. anyways for the many guys who sell baits or need plastic in larger quantities the price is always a big deal. With that said, i have not tried ur plastic yet but your are correct premium product = premium price just like use who make baits..

My question or suggestion is.. Will there be larger quantities available with a discount? like 5 gals or even 10 gallons at a time? Im only asking because at a gallon at a time it just would not be worth for guys trying to cut cost and making 100's-1000's of baits at a time. If there was a way to offer 5 gals or 10 gals in the $145 for 5 gal "range" for bulk .. i think you would have much more success selling it to guys that need alot of plastic.. because $250 for 5 gallons seems on the steep side.. just curious

just positive feedback in know way am i trying to attack you

just food for thought  :D

I hope to try this plastic out soon, and hope it's as good as people have said so far!

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Re: Caney Creek's New Plastic
« Reply #18 on: 06/04/11 21:08 UTC »
Hey Jason,

I know this is my first post but i always have been hanging around reading.. anyways for the many guys who sell baits or need plastic in larger quantities the price is always a big deal. With that said, i have not tried ur plastic yet but your are correct premium product = premium price just like use who make baits..

My question or suggestion is.. Will there be larger quantities available with a discount? like 5 gals or even 10 gallons at a time? Im only asking because at a gallon at a time it just would not be worth for guys trying to cut cost and making 100's-1000's of baits at a time. If there was a way to offer 5 gals or 10 gals in the $145 for 5 gal "range" for bulk .. i think you would have much more success selling it to guys that need alot of plastic.. because $250 for 5 gallons seems on the steep side.. just curious

just positive feedback in know way am i trying to attack you

just food for thought  :D

I hope to try this plastic out soon, and hope it's as good as people have said so far!


It is absolutely coming out in larger sizes that will cost less (larger quantity = less labor, the packaging is hardly any different, but the shipping goes up).  With that said, I think we will be very competitive and will continue to look for ways to reduce cost.  

This first batch to the masses is really more of a final validation vs. the official launch of the plastic.  That's the main reason it's being offered in 1 gallon sizes.  It's enough plastic someone can truly evaluate it and decide before they jump out and purchase 5 - 10 gallons.  It's kind of the same principal we use with sample baits.  We want you to be happy, and if your not, it's in both our interest to find out for as little as possible, as soon as possible.

Jason
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Re: Caney Creek's New Plastic
« Reply #19 on: 06/05/11 13:10 UTC »
Sounds awesome jason!

Thank you Im excited to try this stuff out!

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Re: Caney Creek's New Plastic
« Reply #20 on: 06/13/11 13:09 UTC »
I wanted to provide an update and a time line for how the new plastic will be rolled out.  Our first production run was completed last week.  We quality checked it today and it was just as spot on as it has been since we finalized it.  We will receive it later this week and will be shipping it to you next week.  I will provide additional details in a new thread in a few days.

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Re: Caney Creek's New Plastic
« Reply #21 on: 06/30/11 00:39 UTC »
Would be cool to try but Calhouns cost $865 per Drum.

This sounds like it would be substantially higher!

Curious to see what the price lines will be and a comparative between baits using this plastic and others!

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Re: Caney Creek's New Plastic
« Reply #22 on: 06/30/11 08:52 UTC »
The best analogy I can provide is something I've gone through with aluminum this year.  There are a lot of suppliers, and a few different brands available.  I wasn't specifying a particular brand and was mainly focused on cost.  Aluminum has gone through the roof this year and as we use a thicker aluminum than most it has been a difficult pill to swallow.

About 6 months ago I got a shipment in that was imported vs. milled in the U.S.  The variations in tolerances, impurities in the metal, exterior cleanliness of the metal, etc. was awful.  I was still able to produce the same molds, but I had to clean the exterior, measure every piece, make adjustments in my milling to compensate for the different tolerances, toss a few pieces because they were so bowed, etc.  Basically I had to baby sit every single piece I machined.  Did I save what amounted to a dollar or two a mold?  In aluminum yes, in my time and frustration, no way.  I am 100% confident it cost me money in the form of my time.

We now have an agreement in place with one of the largest US based manufactures / distributors and only buy their product.  Do I spend a little more upfront?  Yes.  However, I spend way less time once it hits my door fussing over it.  I believe it saves me money in the form of my time.  It also helps guarantee we are buying U.S. mfg product (we are really close to 100% in that regard which is important to me).

Is Crystal Clear going to be the best or right plastic for everyone, no.  There is no such thing.  We never set out to create the be all end all of plastic.  If you use a Zorn injection machine you can get by with a much lower grade of plastic because you are not as exposed to it.  Our plastic is designed for people who hand pour, hand inject, or want a higher quality plastic.  Am I saying it's better than Calhoun, for me - absolutely, but maybe not for everyone.

If you break it down and include shipping the cost difference is pennies a bait.  That will work well for some, if you are making hundreds of thousands, or millions of baits it wouldn't.

There are decisions that we all have to make, and money definitely plays a part in it.  One last thing behind why we went the route we did with the plastic.  Since we use plastic daily to test molds, pour samples and for our own use, I wanted a plastic that I would enjoy using every day.  That I guess is the true measuring stick that was used in it's development.

Jason

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Re: Caney Creek's New Plastic
« Reply #23 on: 06/30/11 09:39 UTC »
Hi Jason

Can you please e-mail me the price of the plastic excluding shipping as the shipping will work out more to South Africa.

I might be ordering 10-20 galloons at a time to sent via Surface Mail which will be much cheaper that sending it via Airmail as you saw when you send me the 2 gallons of plastic.

Thanks

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Re: Caney Creek's New Plastic
« Reply #24 on: 06/30/11 10:56 UTC »
Hi Pieter,

E-mail sent.

Jason

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Re: Caney Creek's New Plastic
« Reply #25 on: 07/29/11 06:45 UTC »
Great stuff, with shipping included it is very competitive with other plastic's, but to me the no packing or smoking, very low bubble count and the fast cure are a nobrainer for me. This is by far the best plastic that I have used. Plus I didn't have to change my recipes again!