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Re: MO MILK
« Reply #30 on: 10/30/14 11:21 UTC »
That is string glitter.
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« Reply #31 on: 10/30/14 11:31 UTC »
That bait that Justin shows is real close to what we here call oystershell. I use a couple drops of white with a drop or two of pearl or silver pearl [mf] and a little blue hi lite. Walleyes up in this area tear that color up pretty good during the winter bite at the dams.
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« Reply #32 on: 10/30/14 16:34 UTC »
Stick with glass beads. Violet hilite with 015 purple and gold

« Last Edit: 10/30/14 16:36 UTC by MonteSS »

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« Reply #33 on: 10/30/14 19:26 UTC »
It's string glitter. It's from baitjunkys.  I love string glitter.

That color is violet pearl auto paint powder. And black string

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Re: MO MILK
« Reply #34 on: 10/30/14 19:56 UTC »
So you can use powder paint as a color as colorant?  Doesn't leave residue in mold or injector?

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« Reply #35 on: 10/30/14 20:05 UTC »
I don't believe he is referring to powder paint. The automotive paint industry offers a ton of pearl powders that are compatible with the plastic and can create all kinds of crazy stuff. The automotive pearls can be added to powder paint though to get some unreal paint colors and effects too.

Try this link and snoop around. All kinds of pearls in there.    http://www.prismaticpowders.com/
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Re: MO MILK
« Reply #36 on: 10/30/14 21:24 UTC »
Toms right

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« Reply #37 on: 10/30/14 21:47 UTC »
Bucko....

If you check out the Prismaticpowder site, in the upper left hand corner of the front page you go to by clicking the link, click on TOP COAT, then use the color wheel to see the different colors within that color range: blues, reds, pinks, etc. Plan about an hour to snoop there. The site is immense and it is a mind blower when you see the colors available.

The powder used in small amounts will act as a hi lite will in the plastic. Up the amount you add and you'll get a pearl color. I've got a couple colors.

Here's another site that you can check out for pearl powders in smaller quantities: www.paintwithpearl.com This site has some awesome products too and again I use a couple different colors from there. I like to add just a very, very tiny amount of the pink-tangerine to hot orange plastic and I'll add some small amounts of the purple pearl to clear and top coat purple baits. Unreal effects.
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Re: MO MILK
« Reply #38 on: 10/31/14 06:32 UTC »
Thanks for, the sites. If you use the top coat powder in clear plastic, does it come out as bright as the color patches show? Or is  it just a hi-lite over a white pearl color? (Like the Mo Milk)

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« Reply #39 on: 10/31/14 06:41 UTC »
On the prismatic top coat colors it says that a lot of the colors need a undercoat of chrome or some other color. Can you use both in plastic to achieve that color, or are you using just the top coat as a high-lite?

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« Reply #40 on: 10/31/14 08:03 UTC »
Keep in mind you are adding these powders to plastic and not mixing paint. A four ounce batch of clear plastic will go opaque in a heartbeat using these auto pigments if you add too much, just like regular hi lites. Since the plastic we use is not a part of any automotive paint process, but can be used by us, we have to find the balance in its use. Small additions, slow going is the rule here. To use these in plastic, forget about the mixing or undercoat requirements the paint side asks for.

The top coat is what I use most of for getting a hi lite into plastic. In an automotive use, the top tops are merely  a clear coat that carries the pearl pigment and they are applied of the actual color to create a color illusion, much like hi lites do in the plastic. They will make a clear plastic a solid color when mixed to strong and the color pigments will bleed into clear plastic if mixed strong and solo. If this happens to you, you'd gone too far with it. In a clear coat paint, this color is so thin that it doesn't hardly appear noticeable.

Because this pearl pigment powder mixes with any liquid, it is a great way for the air brushers to trick out finish coats. A friend of mine owns a body shop with his dad and took on a paint job of a custom built stunt plane. The plane's paintable parts were brought in before they were assembled. The base coat of paint was a gold metal-flake that had a deep transparent red shot over the top as the primary color. The top coat, the one using the pigments we are discussing here, was really bright tangerine [orange] color. The end result was amazing in the sun. I have never seen any paint come with so many colors simply from a few coats of paint. The same effects could be gotten by making plastic red with gold glitter and then clear coating with a thin tangerine colored pearl powder mixed as a thin hi lite top coat. As for eyes, I have no idea if the clear with the thin pearl would be a factor but assume so.

I have lots of different pearl powders simply because I love to play with color. Sometimes I come up with a great finish result. Lots of times its a flop. Each flop is a lesson though. The biggest lesson I have learned thus far is that a very little of the pigment is needed to twist the heck out of a colored plastic. Its hard to stress enough that so very little is needed to get the job done and most often is what discourages people using this powder. Whatever it says on the product pages for ordering, scrap it. This is used in an entirely different way and in a different catalyst. The top coat colors is what you want only because the powder's talc-like quality is so fine that it creates an illusion of color without actually changing the color much.
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« Reply #41 on: 10/31/14 08:34 UTC »
Here is a picture showing about how much is almost too much of this auto paint pigment to use in a 4 ounce batch. For comparison, there is a .177 caliber pellet next to the pigment on the end of a knife blade. The color shown is Hot Pink Pearl Candy.



Just in handling the bag long enough to get this picture my hands look like I've gotten a custom top coat. The amount of color intensity and reflectiveness in this stuff is uncanny. My one hand is literally a pink iridescent from trying to wipe just a tiny smidge of the powder off.

The product shown here is from PaintWithPearls.com. You can also find chameleon pigments for changeable hi lite colors and if you want to step outside of the plastics realm of micro-metal-flakes you'll find colors there for adding to the Do-It line of powder paint that are mind blowers. Some of the flake there is an actual metal product so  you'll have to do your own homework on that if you plan to add these to plastic and heat in your microwave.
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Re: MO MILK
« Reply #42 on: 10/31/14 10:06 UTC »
Thank You for all the information! I'll be looking and reading for awhile. If my wife ever finds out how much this stuff cost, I'm a dead man!!

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« Reply #43 on: 10/31/14 17:58 UTC »
Hey it's cheaper than the molds!!!LOL  and these pigments a little goes a long ways even mixing with powder paint. 

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« Reply #44 on: 10/31/14 20:39 UTC »
" and these pigments a little goes a long ways even mixing with powder paint"....per Fatman

That's no bull. Most of those I have are in bags of about 25 grams. In my lifetime I won't use all of one bag....unless I start painting custom rods.
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