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Offline Lamar

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Laminate Plate
« on: 02/08/15 15:47 UTC »
  Spent part of the day making a laminate plate for one of my molds. I took a aluminum container that I buy roasted chickens in and cut out the bottom. Put the mold over it and traced around it with a marker. It was pretty simple and seems to work well. I have a twin injector but for this color ( Denny calls Lamar's dirty little secret ) I like the straight cut line in it. And with this I get two half's and no waste from the spur as you do with a twin injector. The best part of this bait is what you can't see. The FDA stamps their symbol on the bottom of the aluminum container and I centered it in the laminate plate so that inside of each of my baits has the FDA approval stamp. Not sure it's going to catch me anymore fish but it will make a good story when I do.


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Re: Laminate Plate
« Reply #1 on: 02/08/15 17:21 UTC »
 I like that color a lot. Perfect combination.

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Re: Laminate Plate
« Reply #2 on: 02/08/15 17:48 UTC »
Nice Lamar, those look great.  I was trying to do this color for some sticks but couldn't quite get it right.

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Re: Laminate Plate
« Reply #3 on: 02/08/15 18:05 UTC »
  It's a simple color. The brown is just that. 4 drops 2X brown with a dash of 40 thousand black flake. The green is 2 drops 2X CC Green, 2 drops 2X yellow and 2 drops of SOB ( some other brand ) white. I do not have any 2X white. And 40 thousand black flake. You can leave the white out but I like how it kind of dulls the green up a little. Both batches in 4 oz plastic.

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Re: Laminate Plate
« Reply #4 on: 02/08/15 18:16 UTC »
NICE Lam, Lamar!  Had to edit that out.  It may have come across as disrespect.  Sorry bout dat der Bro.
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Re: Laminate Plate
« Reply #5 on: 02/08/15 19:08 UTC »
Thanks for sharing the recipe Lamar, going to give it a try.

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Re: Laminate Plate
« Reply #6 on: 02/08/15 20:10 UTC »
I tried to make a laminate plate for the ES Beaver and it just doesn't work right. The two sides are not equally made. I wish they would make a CNC model in this mold. It's a great looking bait and a high end mold would be the ticket.

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Re: Laminate Plate
« Reply #7 on: 02/08/15 20:29 UTC »
I need to try to make a lami plate. I have one for my skinny carrots but find it easier to just hand pour those as with other bellies. But I feel like most creature an craw baits almost need one like you created, Lamar. Awesome color btw. I bet it'd be great on the new 4.5 lizard for smallies


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Re: Laminate Plate
« Reply #8 on: 02/09/15 01:19 UTC »
I have made myself several laminate plates for any mold I own. The great thing is they are always reuse able. They are made out of a roll of roofing aluminum flashing you get at lowes. I think it's like  16 inches by 20 feet. The cost is low at 9.95 and you can get plenty of plates. Outline your mold but make a tab for it like on a file folder. Cut the plate out and cut carefully the injection area out. Also you can cut out the areas for your placement pens or tabs. The plate is thin but sturdy and made of aluminum. On the tab use a sharpie or a tag maker and label the plate. You will get two great sides to work with. I have tried several ways to do this and this is by far the best.

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Re: Laminate Plate
« Reply #9 on: 02/09/15 06:32 UTC »
  It's a simple color. The brown is just that. 4 drops 2X brown with a dash of 40 thousand black flake. The green is 2 drops 2X CC Green, 2 drops 2X yellow and 2 drops of SOB ( some other brand ) white. I do not have any 2X white. And 40 thousand black flake. You can leave the white out but I like how it kind of dulls the green up a little. Both batches in 4 oz plastic.

So you make up a number of halves of one color first, then put them back in the mold and inject the second color, correct? Do you have to heat up the halves you put back in the mold to make them bond when you inject the second color?

Thank you.

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Re: Laminate Plate
« Reply #10 on: 02/09/15 07:10 UTC »
Semi....

You don't have to heat the halves you insert before the final injection, but you may find it necessary to keep the heat of the injected plastic upward of 320-340 degrees. The greater the area to weld, the higher the heat is my rule and when the injector rod stops when the mold is filled you'll want to keep some light but constant pressure on it for up to a ten count.

Also, I recommend making the pieces as you go, meaning if you want to make twenty frogs with bellies and backs different colors you make enough pieces to get it done at one session. Stockpiling pieces, say frog belly parts, in a bag for use down the road a couple months will hand you problems. As plastic sits it will exude an oil and if you do not get all of that oil removed from the surfaces you need to weld they will delaminate real easy. Small parts, like tails, you can get by with by leaving the tails longer than what you need when you shoot baits using them and simply cutting them to length as you re-insert them in the mold. This allows for a fresh surface for the second plastic to weld to.

Another tip in this process is to slow the injection of the second plastic down so you don't lift the inserted piece with the incoming plastic and under-shoot it.

This isn't a hard process but these little hints will make life easier for you as you move ahead with it.
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Re: Laminate Plate
« Reply #11 on: 02/09/15 15:25 UTC »
So you make up a number of halves of one color first, then put them back in the mold and inject the second color, correct? Do you have to heat up the halves you put back in the mold to make them bond when you inject the second color?

Thank you.

  Yes that is what I do. I don't heat it up anymore then a normal shot. I've not had them pull apart yet. But like Tom said shoot it slow and hold pressure or it will try to go under the first layer.