thanks everyone, i spent another half day in the garage and got it. i could not get the sheen on it but i have some auto pearl powers and found a moss green added it and bam it looks great. i will post a pic as soon as i get some. i have a whole box of these old powders that are no longer used never thought to use them. im very new to all of this. now it looks like i have a whole winter of playing to do.