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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bass Boys on 08/20/21 04:29 UTC
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What jig Head do you guys suggest for this shad body ?
A shad style I guess.
Will not be fishing very deep so 1/4 - 3/8 size.
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Any flat backed head will fish those. If you're planning on swimming them then the Shad Head with the wire keeper might be a good option with the forward hook eye. Vertically the Diner Shiner offers the wire keeper but with the traditional 90 degree hook and a lot of detail.
I don't care for the baits with the flat front end. It just looks cumbersome and really limits what heads will look and fish well with it
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Hey bassboys, this is the mold i have been using for shad type baits. It's sold as a saltwater jig, and has 2 keeper barbs. I usually remove one of the barbs for smaller body baits. I like the 60 degree jig hooks it uses. I have less hang ups on rocks and brush with that style.
https://store.do-itmolds.com/Bullet-Nose-JigbrSz-18-14brHk-410-or-413brCollar-Double-Barb_p_421.html
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Any flat backed head will fish those. If you're planning on swimming them then the Shad Head with the wire keeper might be a good option with the forward hook eye. Vertically the Diner Shiner offers the wire keeper but with the traditional 90 degree hook and a lot of detail.
I don't care for the baits with the flat front end. It just looks cumbersome and really limits what heads will look and fish well with it
Flat front swim baits surely are not as popular as the complete minnow style shad . I was wondering if they made a head that the hook eye was in the nose ?
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Hey bassboys, this is the mold i have been using for shad type baits. It's sold as a saltwater jig, and has 2 keeper barbs. I usually remove one of the barbs for smaller body baits. I like the 60 degree jig hooks it uses. I have less hang ups on rocks and brush with that style.
https://store.do-itmolds.com/Bullet-Nose-JigbrSz-18-14brHk-410-or-413brCollar-Double-Barb_p_421.html
Are you saying the 60 deg. has less hand ups than the 90 deg ?
Also how wide is that head where it meets the shad body ? 1/4" ?
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Not sure on your original question, but the only head I am aware of (I could be wrong) that comes out of the nose is the Yamamoto Swim head. https://store.do-itmolds.com/Gary-Yamamoto-Swimming-JigbrSz-116-18-316-14-516brHk-Gamakatsu-V-EyebrCollar-Barb_p_969.html.
This one looks to be out of stock on Do it. Not sure if it can be found somewhere else.
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Not sure on your original question, but the only head I am aware of (I could be wrong) that comes out of the nose is the Yamamoto Swim head. https://store.do-itmolds.com/Gary-Yamamoto-Swimming-JigbrSz-116-18-316-14-516brHk-Gamakatsu-V-EyebrCollar-Barb_p_969.html.
This one looks to be out of stock on Do it. Not sure if it can be found somewhere else.
I wonder what Yamamoto recommends to use as a bait on that ?
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Must be the 60 and 90 deg hooks swim just fine. ( that's what most jig heads use )
I do not use a lot of swim baits , I just thought the swim bait would swim nose down with the hook eye up above the nose of the head ?
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Are you saying the 60 deg. has less hand ups than the 90 deg ?
Also how wide is that head where it meets the shad body ? 1/4" ?
I'll get a finished jig out today and measure the width where it meets the plastic bait.
I have less problems snagging the 60 degree heads than I do with 90 degree, but I have only used them with the Ripper and a Baitplastics swim bait mold. I don't own the shad body mold you have pictured. I don't see where it would change things much.
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Bass Boys, the 1/8 oz. measures 5/16", the 1/4 oz. measures 3/8". That is the flat, back of the head that meets the bait.
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https://store.do-itmolds.com/Swimbait-Head-Jig.html
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-c9l8z0r8dc/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/26651/36961/473523__18286.1561143439.jpg?c=2)
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Those baits might even do well worked on a weighted, but smaller hook
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I wonder what Yamamoto recommends to use as a bait on that ?
:D This made me laugh. I have this mold but don't use it for plastics. I tie bucktail or feathers on it and troll it behind a flasher for trout. I like the looks of the swimbait head, but haven't ever tried them.
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https://store.do-itmolds.com/Swimbait-Head-Jig.html
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-c9l8z0r8dc/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/26651/36961/473523__18286.1561143439.jpg?c=2)
sweet looking head ,
But I think it mite set to low on the body I have due to the the lip on the head ??
what is your thought ?
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:D This made me laugh. I have this mold but don't use it for plastics. I tie bucktail or feathers on it and troll it behind a flasher for trout. I like the looks of the swimbait head, but haven't ever tried them.
;D,,
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Anyone on here interested in trading a few heads for soft plastics so I could try a few styles.
I have lots and lots of colors and styles of plastics.
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Pm me your address and I’ll make up some for you to try out.
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I'll send some as well. Just PM over your address.
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i think im in the minority when it comes to jig heads matching or "looking good" with the bait. the bait itself is the attractor and the head really doesnt matter, its just a weight. i fish unpainted lead jigs 100% of the time, and most of that is just a ball head. the only other style i own is the midwest finesse, and they just stand up a bit better, still unpainted!
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Honestly with a flat front edge on that plastic bait….I don’t think the swimbait head would be my first choice. I’d go more towards other heads that had a flat back edge to but up with it.
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I disagree... The swimbait head looks better, Can be jigged on the bottom and stands the bait upright. You can always cut/bite the plastic a little to fit the head, Or cut the bottom "Ski"off the jighead to make it flat. I do this and it works real well. ;D
I have caught a ton of fish on a shoelace... Fish are not smart. lol. So why care only about having a nice piece of plastic and just a chunk of raw lead on a hook to present it? When you can have the best presentation? After all, Your confindence matters, And I like having nice baits to show off to the fish, Even if I dont catch a single "Extra" fish. :D
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The response to this thread is awesome.
I love all the options that guys try .
Would love to hear more .
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I disagree... The swimbait head looks better, Can be jigged on the bottom and stands the bait upright. You can always cut/bite the plastic a little to fit the head, Or cut the bottom "Ski"off the jighead to make it flat. I do this and it works real well. ;D
I have caught a ton of fish on a shoelace... Fish are not smart. lol. So why care only about having a nice piece of plastic and just a chunk of raw lead on a hook to present it? When you can have the best presentation? After all, Your confindence matters, And I like having nice baits to show off to the fish, Even if I dont catch a single "Extra" fish. :D
Don’t get me wrong depending on water clarity and fishing pressure a lot of things either do or don’t matter. I’ve got the swimbait mold and use it. Like it a lot. However, when I pair up my jig heads and plastics I like stuff to match up and present well. With the flat front on this plastic I’d want a jig head that it buts up to tight and straight. Mainly so it swims through crap and doest catch on it, with a very professional look. If a guy isn’t worried or cares…a simple round head jig works.
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I really like this mold and use it quite a bit especially for Alabama rigs. It uses a thick wire hook that won’t bend out and has the flat back which would match up well with your soft plastic swimbait. It has eye sockets so if you want to put eyes on it and dress it up you can. Various sizes depending on what you want. Wire plastic keeper. Look at this one real close. I think the do it guys hit a home run with this one……..
https://store.do-itmolds.com/Shad-Head-Rig-JigbrSz-18-316-14-516-38-716brHk-32886brCollar-Wire-Holder_p_1096.html
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It's even better when modified to take the WDB1000 wire form. ;)
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I really like this mold and use it quite a bit especially for Alabama rigs. It uses a thick wire hook that won’t bend out and has the flat back which would match up well with your soft plastic swimbait. It has eye sockets so if you want to put eyes on it and dress it up you can. Various sizes depending on what you want. Wire plastic keeper. Look at this one real close. I think the do it guys hit a home run with this one……..
https://store.do-itmolds.com/Shad-Head-Rig-JigbrSz-18-316-14-516-38-716brHk-32886brCollar-Wire-Holder_p_1096.html
I like the eye socket too .
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I disagree... The swimbait head looks better, Can be jigged on the bottom and stands the bait upright. You can always cut/bite the plastic a little to fit the head, Or cut the bottom "Ski"off the jighead to make it flat. I do this and it works real well. ;D
I have caught a ton of fish on a shoelace... Fish are not smart. lol. So why care only about having a nice piece of plastic and just a chunk of raw lead on a hook to present it? When you can have the best presentation? After all, Your confindence matters, And I like having nice baits to show off to the fish, Even if I dont catch a single "Extra" fish. :D
im more about catching fish than it looking super amazing, to each their own but the main attraction is the plastic. catching fisherman is one thing, but when it comes to personal use im too lazy to worry about that!
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The Teardrop w/keeper wire would be a nice match for this plastic. The Teardrop is the least fussy jig I have fished with ever.
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There's various good choices.
The darter head works well with those baits, or the Underspin. If you don't want the added flash, then mold them without the wire.
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im more about catching fish than it looking super amazing, to each their own but the main attraction is the plastic. catching fisherman is one thing, but when it comes to personal use im too lazy to worry about that!
When you make your own baits, Plastic or lead, It's awesome to make things better than you can buy at any store on the planet, Even if they don't catch 1 extra fish... I open my box up and all my stuff is amazing. :P
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When you make your own baits, Plastic or lead, It's awesome to make things better than you can buy at any store on the planet, Even if they don't catch 1 extra fish... I open my box up and all my stuff is amazing. :P
i agree with plastics, for sure, im just not a believer in the jig matters in most cases. to each their own, i know your stuff is amazing and hell i want ot eat some of it !
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Got a sample pk of jig heads today in the mail from " Fishermanbt"
A great bunch of heads to try out .
Thanks much .
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Got another package in the mail!
Anyfish sent me a nice asst. of heads to check out .
Great work ,
Thanks much, Jeff
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I will try to get a few pictures up of the jig heads in the swim body.
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Here are some of the jig heads that were sent to me .
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Nice looking baits!! I'll be interested to hear what you think of the various styles. Best of luck out there.