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Offline Cormorant Lures

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Converting Colors and Techniques
« on: 02/08/12 12:41 UTC »
Since the beginning of my new hobby adventure, I have been focused mainly on heavily salted stick baits... All of my colors and techniques have been focused towards the use of floured salt in my baits... When pouring craws, brush hogs, creatures, etc.; I would imagine that much less salt (possibly none at all) is used in these types of baits... I would also assume that salt HEAVILY influences your color based on the fact that it adds an almost white pigment when added... So my question(s) are: Am I going to have to go back to the "drawing board" when it comes to my color formulas and removing some if not all of the salt content?!? Is there an easy way to possibly correct my colors?!? When pouring the other above mentioned baits, what is the correct salt ratio?!?

If you think I am missing something and would like to add your own 2cents, please do!!! Thanks!!!

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Offline knifemaker3

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Re: Converting Colors and Techniques
« Reply #1 on: 02/08/12 14:24 UTC »
It has been years since I've used salt, but if memory serves me correct I believe I had to add more colorant to get the color I was looking for than if salt wasn't used.  But, again it's been several years since I've used salt in my plastics so I may have forgotten.

I'm sure someone else who uses salt will chime in shortly to correct me.

Good Luck!
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Offline Denny Welch

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Re: Converting Colors and Techniques
« Reply #2 on: 02/08/12 14:59 UTC »
About the only time I use salt is when I'm pouring senkos.  I use Del's senko hand pour molds in both 5" and 6" sizes and I use a lot of salt.  I'm writing this from my office and don't have my recipes handy, but I think I use about 1/4 cup of salt for every 4 ounces of plastic (it could be every 8 ounces).  Either way, it's a lot of salt.  It will definitely change the color of non-salted baits.  With black, it's not too much of a problem...just keep adding black colorant until you get to where you want to be.  The lighter colors will pose a problem and you'll have to play with it until you get it right.  Keep good notes.  I hope this helps.
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Offline pjmcla

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Re: Converting Colors and Techniques
« Reply #3 on: 02/08/12 15:11 UTC »
I have been out of the loop to long I guess.  ---Salt ---  Adds weight.   Changes the action and texture ( softer and more fexible? ).  Adds scent.  Reduces raw materials cost.  Causes coloring issues.  Is there something I am missing?  I know Yum and Yamamoto are big on salted baits and both are popular.  How much is real, how much is marketing?  Are the attributes afforded by the salt something that could be duplicated by adjusting the plastic blend ( other than the weight )?
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Offline superharmonix

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Re: Converting Colors and Techniques
« Reply #4 on: 02/08/12 20:22 UTC »
The only baits I pour with salt are also senko-style stickbaits.  Other than weight, and possibly taste(debatable) the salt also reduces the durability of the bait.  Most people like the salt content in the senkos because of the weight of the bait so they can T-rig them and throw them with no added weights.

This is just my opinion, so anyone who disagrees is wrong,  (kidding- :P) but I just can't see any reason to add salt to any other type of bait you are shooting or pouring.  Any needed weight can easily be added via punch weight, worm weight, whatever your favorite sinker choices are...

I have spent alot of trial and error time trying to create like colors between non-salted and salted senko-style baits, and the hassle is beyond what I feel is worth it.  (Cormorant- I know you are selling so I am speaking from a selling vein).  for the casual or hobbyist, playing with the colors with salt added could be relaxing and fun! 
Basically, salt is not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion, but as soon as you add salt to hot plastic you are creating speed limits and speed bumps for yourself.  On the senkos, since they are straight with no appendages and aren't much heavier than 9 grams or so(with salt), it isn't a huge deal.  (unless trying to match certain non-salted colors)
Others will disagree and I am smart enough to know my knowledge is only as good as my next knowledge sponging session.   ;D


 
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Offline Otis Baits

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Re: Converting Colors and Techniques
« Reply #5 on: 02/08/12 20:45 UTC »
I have only been pouring for a year.But besides weight.I think salt only catches fishermen.That's just my opinion though.I only pour it for those who request it.It is tough to keep your colors right.I have one guy that wants lots of it in his go to bait. Junebug trick worm it took a lot of mixing to get the color right to his liking.
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