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Offline MT204

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slimy.
« on: 04/25/20 20:33 UTC »
OK, I bet I got everyone's attention on that one.
I just opened up a Plano box (not air tight) of small soft baits that I poured about a year and a half ago that I normally use for ice fishing.
Needless to say they are all slimy/oily, some even have small spots almost like burns on them.
Did I not cook the plastic long enough or to long. Hadn't ran across this before?
Hate to throw them all away but they are kind gross.

Offline ctom

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Re: slimy.
« Reply #1 on: 04/25/20 20:45 UTC »
I’ve had baits get oily in storage. I put them in warm water with some dawn detergent and swished them around until clean then rinsed in warm running water and allowed to dry on a towel. They worked fine.
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Offline andrewlamberson

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Re: slimy.
« Reply #2 on: 04/25/20 21:44 UTC »
It has been my experience (unfortunately) that if you don't get your plastic to 350 and it doesn't fully change state you will eventually end up with cloudy, stinky baits.

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Offline smalljaw

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Re: slimy.
« Reply #3 on: 04/26/20 09:42 UTC »
I heard someone from MF mention this before. They said the baits are fine, what is happening is some plastisol has mold release mixed in. After the baits sit some the excess mold release will bleed out. Just rinse off and pat dry and they are fine.

Offline andrewlamberson

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Re: slimy.
« Reply #4 on: 04/26/20 11:29 UTC »
From the Plastics 101 post from Jason...many years ago!

It is critical that all PVC be heated to 350 degrees for it to correctly cook.  Failure to heat an entire batch to 350 degrees may cause your baits to "phase" (discolor, become oily, basically deteriorate).
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Offline Les Young

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Re: slimy.
« Reply #5 on: 04/26/20 12:09 UTC »
Some plastic is  dryer than others because of having less plastisizers in them which in turn makes them a dryer type of plastisol. or that's how i've been led to understand it anyway. I know with the  3 different brands i've tried there was one that put more oil off by far then the other two did. Itdefinitely got my attention & me  thinking something wasn't right, but it was fine after curing & made perfectly fine lures. Would i order that plastisol again? Absolutely.

Offline ctom

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Re: slimy.
« Reply #6 on: 04/26/20 12:39 UTC »
I/ve been using the essential since it was first offered. I as a rule cook to 360 degrees on the initial cook. Plastics I have made using it and kept in Plano boxes stay as clear as there were when they came from the mold. HOWEVER, baits in the same box a year or more old will exude an oil that tends to make a mess of things if left there. I remove all of the baits a couple times a year, give them a bath in warm water with some Dawn dish soap in it. They get rinsed in warm water and dumped onto a large terry cloth towel and fluffed around a bit then left to air dry. Then I wash the box using the same water but with a stronger dose of Dawn. Spray rinse and shook to get the bulk of the water off the box and left to air dry as well. When everything is dry I put things back where they were and I'm good for another 6 or 8 months.

The oil that gets exuded is from every day heat, likely moreso if the boxes are left in a boat all the time. The oil isn't a sign of anything amiss. It just naturally occurs. Even on fully cooked plastics, but they stay clear. Now if your baits are cloudy, they've either been subject to storage in high humidity or they were not gotten to the 350 degrees that the raw plastic needs to get to fully convert and the hand help surface reading infrared thermometers are NOT what you should be relying on to get the temperature of cooking plastic. You need to use the digital probe type of thermometer to be accurate.
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