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Offline senkosam

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The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« on: 11/14/23 12:15 UTC »
For years it was called the Beetle Spin and for the life of me I forgot if it did well. This summer it did! Way back when, I remember using a Mr. Twister curl tail grub with the spinner and did okay catching smallmouth in my local river. The curl tail still did okay recently:

I figured if a curl tail worked, a thin straight tail should do just as well. It did.







« Last Edit: 11/14/23 14:20 UTC by senkosam »

Offline Fatman

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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #1 on: 11/14/23 13:57 UTC »
Never stopped using them

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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #2 on: 11/14/23 16:19 UTC »
Never stopped using them
Me either, been making my own for several years, and they are still producing.

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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #3 on: 11/15/23 07:58 UTC »
The Beetle Spin is legendary. One of the funny things was that if one took the spinner off the packaged jig it did as good as with it on. In many instances I think the spinner helped while the bait did amazingly well as a do nothing bait on a jig just sitting there at certain times of the year.... like in the pre-spawn to actual spawn for crappies when just the body on a jig under a float allowed to drift over a crappie bed would immediately be grabbed and moved away from the bed. Right now, while water temps are doing a nosedive, is another time when a bait like the Beetle's body just hanging at a specific depth can make crappies murder themselves. We find forage sitting at specific water depths at this time of the year and under a float, doing nothing but drifting along, letting whatever action the wind, waves and current, gives the bait is the best of the best way to hammer big crappies. In these instances, the spinner itself would be a drawback.

Post spawn and into the summer months when the water is warmer, but not yet real warm, is when the crappies are willing to chase, and these safety-pin spinners can shine. They can be dressed up with everything from plastic to hair and fuzz. Something I have done while the water after the spawn is warming and the crappies have a serious feedbag on is to clip one of these spinners to a small, sinking, crankbait instead of a jig/plastic. A smaller Rapala original sinking stick bait makes a great combo with an appropriately sized, clip-on spinner. This gives flash, noise and the lure's swimming action all wrapped up in one small package and larger crappies are usually more than happy to put the crunch on this rig when they're hanging out over open water.
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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #4 on: 02/20/24 03:58 UTC »
I've never heard of the spinner/blade being taken off the B.spin. May as well use just the jig.
Nice write-up BTW!

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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #5 on: 02/20/24 09:29 UTC »
Trying to stay half-way on track here, these are some crappie spinners done using the mold available here at Do-It. These are 1/8 ounce and larger in profile than the 1/16 ounce version which will get dressed with plastics such as what senior has shown…. Just waiting on some more appropriate size blades to wrap things up.

One of the issues I have had/seen with the safety pin style of spinners is that really large crappies can bend them up in a hurry.these have sturdier wire in the frames. Another aspect of the spinners is that they tended to be most useful for a buddy and during warmer water periods, but I think during the spring and fall transition periods they may be valuable while the water is still on the warm side.

Another aspect in making these spinners is that hook size can be controlled without increasing spinner weight and this holds true in both sizes the mold casts.

 In the end both styles of spinners will work effectively and actually the safety-pin spinner is quite versatile in that a huge variety of baits and dressed jigs can simply adapted by clipping on hair or feather or plastic. The silicone really increases the profile size on the spinners I have shown and that makes for a solid large-crappie bait. Regardless of approach spinners are a great bait.

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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #6 on: 02/20/24 21:00 UTC »
Good post here!

In one of the facebook groups for pouring lead, a beginner asked about using crane swivels for making his spinnerbaits. He said that he had bought a bunch of the swivels, and wasn't sure he had done the right thing. Of course some replies insisted ball bearing swivels were the only way to go.

I told the guy to use what he had, and even mentioned that the beetle spin style lures often had crane swivels on them, and loads of fish are caught on them.

This post proves that very well.

The guy said he was on a low budget, and was only making for his & a buddies use. I told him that I preferred ball bearing swivels on bass size spinnerbaits, but they're expensive and when I had started making spinnerbaits I had used crane swivels.

I gave him some other information too, and I think I'm going to direct him here to read this post!

Some of those folks could learn a lot here!  ;D

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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #7 on: 02/21/24 05:41 UTC »
ctom, are those fine-looking spinnerbaits only for bass and pickerel? I've never caught panfish on any lure with living rubber or silicone skirts.

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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #8 on: 02/21/24 07:00 UTC »
Those are 1/8 ounce crappie spinners. I should have put a nickel or quarter in the pic for size reference. The blades are only slightly longer than an inch, The silicone is a half-tab of each color to keep the bulking down.

A ten-inch crappie will have no problem chomping down on one of these but as a rule larger crappies, 11" to 14" are taken more consistently. The skirts have not been "finish" trimmed yet on these and are probably a bit long for consistent hooking in spite of the #1 hooks they are cast on. Depending on the fish we're on, on any given day, I will trim the silicone to fit their size preference and to help up the hooking percentages. In the water on a moderate retrieve, the silicone on these spinners will pull down and closely mimic a shiner or a shad of about 2-1/2" and the blades, which seem to not get hit, only offer some flash and noise for the fish to focus on until the hit. Basically, every fish will be hooked in the roof of the mouth which tells me that they are hitting the supposed bait fish, the silicone mass, not the spinner blade.
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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #9 on: 02/21/24 14:50 UTC »
I had attempted to purchase a crappie spinner mold awhile back but found it was sold out. I ended up getting a Style C in the 1/16 and 1/8oz size since they appeared similar. The Style C has since been discontinued so I’m kind of glad I got it instead. I tried them out a few times but just couldn’t get confident in it. With Tom’s post I will be revisiting this bait now.

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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #10 on: 02/21/24 16:26 UTC »
Fishermanbt....

I'm not sure what the range of hook sizes fit your mold but I can do 4's, 2's, 1's in both cavities and 1/0 will just fit the 1/8 size. Thus far I have had some luck with the 1/0 but limited. A friend has this crappie mold and I was able to get a few completed spinners [unpainted and less the dressings] from him while I waited on my own mold to finally come available late this winter so I've had some water time with this bait in both sizes, but know I first hand that the #2 hook is stellar on most of the crappies that'll bother this bait. The one thing I have found almost imperative is to leave the silicone long on the finished spinners and try them. If you're getting grabbed but fail to hook up, trim the silicone back until the fish get hooked. I've noted that about 1/4" of the silicone behind the hook is about optimum, but I've taken some larger fish with as much as an inch of shirt behind the hook. I just leave the skirts long and trim in the boat to fit the bite.
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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #11 on: 02/21/24 17:20 UTC »
Same cast details as the crappie spinner. Thanks for the skirt info

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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #12 on: 02/22/24 05:36 UTC »
Many times I use plastic trailers on spinnerbaits when fishing for bass. Do you?
How about trailer hooks which I also attach for bass?
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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #13 on: 02/22/24 06:42 UTC »
Many times I use plastic trailers on spinnerbaits when fishing for bass. Do you?
How about trailer hooks which I also attach for bass.

Yes. The plastic I add as a trailer will have little inherent action of its own, mostly used to bulk up the presentation. And yes on the trailer hook as long as the weeds allow one without fouling on every cast.
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Re: The overhead spinner did well this summer!
« Reply #14 on: 03/19/24 08:31 UTC »
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The plastic I add as a trailer will have little inherent action of its own

I imagine that a skirt would hide a soft plastic lure's action. But the blade imparts action to all soft plastics (and skirts though not hair), causing body & tail vibrations the lateral line can't miss. My preference when using soft plastics as the focus of spins is that they not be covered by a skirt. All of the lures shown regardless of tail shape, vibrate to the tune of blade RPMs.