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Offline b.eipert

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Hook Tolerances on CRJ-6-WBA
« on: 11/26/14 13:11 UTC »
I am considering buying this mold. What are the biggest hooks I can use for each size? I know there are recommended sizes but I do not know if you can go up or down a size. I am planning on using either the Matzuo Sickles or the Eagle Claw Sickles. The mold is the one that is the wire keeper round head in sizes 1/32 through 5/16
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Re: Hook Tolerances on CRJ-6-WBA
« Reply #1 on: 11/26/14 13:40 UTC »
They really aren't "recommended" sizes.  What is listed is the size hook the mold was built around.  With that said as a general rule a hook that is one size larger or smaller than the designated hook size can be used with out issue.  More than one size up usually requires some mold modification, and if you can get a hook 2 sizes smaller to fit it usually results in some lead flashing down the hook shank or into the hook eye.

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Re: Hook Tolerances on CRJ-6-WBA
« Reply #2 on: 11/26/14 14:04 UTC »
I've played a lot with a couple older molds that cast 4-1/32 and 4-1/16 and was able to get a #2 hook in the 1/32 cavities if I left every other cavity empty...casting just two at a time. I was also able to cast the 1/32 as small as a #8 but had a little flash. I could cast the #8 in the 1/16 but then the leg length kept the line eye darned close to the head and the flash was borderline bad. I was able to get a #1 hook in the 1/16 too, but had to settle for a 2 head cast.

There are a lot of possibilities with the molds, but the biggest challenge is the leg length from the shank to the line eye. In the case of over-sizing the hooks, the leg can be too long. In undersizing the leg can be short enough to be a problem, casting very, very close to the head. I was able to do some minor mods to the mold mentioned, not in the cavities proper, but where the shank run into the mold body behind the head, that involved removing a slight amount of material so the hooks could be cocked yet with the eye in the proper spot. This was done for both larger and smaller than the standard hook sizes.

Playing with out-sized hooks can really change your fishing though and I endorse it whole-heartedly.

The Eagle Claw Sickles b.eipert mentions in his post are some ideal hooks. The leg length consistency is flat out outstanding in this line of sickle hook. That goes a super long way in how well the outcome of these mods come out.
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Re: Hook Tolerances on CRJ-6-WBA
« Reply #3 on: 11/26/14 14:46 UTC »
Thanks for clearing that up for me. On a separate note, are there any advantages over using the typical barb collar or screw lock vs the wire one for those ball head jigs? I will probably be using them as typical jigs with trailers and I might be tying some as hair jigs if that makes a difference.
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Re: Hook Tolerances on CRJ-6-WBA
« Reply #4 on: 11/26/14 16:08 UTC »
None that I can think of. When you are doing hair, just wind down a 3/8" bed of thread to anchor the hair before you start with the hair itself..
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Re: Hook Tolerances on CRJ-6-WBA
« Reply #5 on: 11/26/14 16:33 UTC »
Alright. Which one would you recommend? This will be my first mold so I am looking for versatility. I am just looking to find out which would be easiest to not mess up/use in more than one way.
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Re: Hook Tolerances on CRJ-6-WBA
« Reply #6 on: 11/26/14 16:37 UTC »
Having used a number of the molds, including those with springs and the wires, I'd go with the mold that takes wire keepers. If you don't need then in a jig, don't put them in. You may need to pop off a little finger of flash if the wires are omitted but if you're going to tie hair leave it there to help act as an anchor for it. Of all the keeper ideas, the wire used in the mold you mentioned in your opening post will have a ton of versatility and the mold is an easy caster.
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Re: Hook Tolerances on CRJ-6-WBA
« Reply #7 on: 11/26/14 17:08 UTC »
Alright. Thanks!
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