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Offline dubman

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Molds for heavy lures
« on: 11/22/18 01:42 UTC »
Hey guys, new to the forum. I have used the one pound molds for cannonball sinkers for years but I have never seen a mold for a lure that heavy.

I fish the Central California coast and we need weight to get down to the lings in some strong swells. Is there such a mold? Wouldn't need to be a pound but at least 12oz.
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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #2 on: 11/22/18 04:50 UTC »
https://store.do-itmolds.com/In-Line-Trolling-SinkerbrSz-12_p_668.html

Welcome to the forum thi isn’t a true lure mold but add a treble or straight hook with feathers or buck tail in white to the small end and you could probably jig it really don’t know if it would twist your line but I see you could use a swivel on one end and a fixed eye on the other.
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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #3 on: 11/22/18 05:50 UTC »
  One would think you'd be better off using a down rigger set up with that kind of weight. At least then when the fish is on it would release the weight and you would be fighting only the fish. I remember fishing salmon in the inside passage north of you and we used 6oz inline sinkers and I thought those were heavy.

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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #4 on: 11/22/18 08:00 UTC »
Dido on the release Lamar.
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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #5 on: 11/22/18 15:45 UTC »
I made some of those up to 20oz for a friend, including a variation with spinner blade and recessed eye for better balance. Tied the larger ones with sea witch hair. They were very happy with them. Depending on target species they tipped them with large bait, sometimes using stingers, or just plain. Planning to market them next year for deep salt water fishing up in Norway. They did very well.   






Offline Kasilofchrisn

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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #6 on: 11/22/18 16:12 UTC »
I make big jigs all the time.
My biggest jig is 48oz.
But 12-20oz are quite common for me.
Most of my big molds are custom CNC molds.
Bigger custom molds are not cheap though.
I've paid upwards of $300 for one to get what I wanted.
There just isn't enough of a market for Do-It to make many large molds.
Depending on how many you need you might consider buying jigs or buying blanks and painting them.
To make the big stuff your going to need custom molds, custom fluid beds, larger ladles, a big toaster oven etc.
It adds up fast.

« Last Edit: 11/22/18 16:18 UTC by Kasilofchrisn »

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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #7 on: 11/22/18 17:08 UTC »
Bucho awesome jig and fish
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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #8 on: 11/23/18 16:24 UTC »
Thanks a million for all the suggestions. Looking into all the links you guys sent now.

Offline Kasilofchrisn

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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #9 on: 11/24/18 08:46 UTC »
Something else to keep in mind.
It's not just the weight of the jig that makes it drop fast and buck the tides and currents. But the design and shape of a jig can also make it work better.
A properly designed jig might get you down and into the fish and be a several ounces or more lighter than a comparable jig.
a jig with the tapered design is much better than a large jig that catches that current and tide if you know what I mean.
For instance one of my jig designs is a jig that weighs in at 25 oz. This jig drops faster than one using a 3lb cod sinker with a hook and chunk of bait.
So by the time the person with the bait and the weight reaches bottom you're already on your way up with a fish. And your fishing almost half the weight to begin with.

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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #10 on: 11/24/18 13:19 UTC »

For instance one of my jig designs is a jig that weighs in at 25 oz. This jig drops faster than one using a 3lb cod sinker with a hook and chunk of bait.
So by the time the person with the bait and the weight reaches bottom you're already on your way up with a fish. And your fishing almost half the weight to begin with.

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True. I remember testing my usd wobble jig variant from a party boat in some 50`of water. We tried all sorts of sinker combinations with no success until I resortet to try the 3/8th oz jig pure. The guy next to me needed 4oz of lead to keep his two baited droppers with teasers straight on the ground while I let the lead-lipped jig work itself down, dig the bottom and started netting one flounder after another. He didn`t even try to understand what was going on and chose to just ignore me. 

BTW I need a production mold for that, tired of using the one-cavity manipulated do-it mold. Can you recommend your mold maker please? 


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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #12 on: 11/26/18 10:34 UTC »
Do you know what a "Jika Rig" is?  I bet that this would be the best option depending on what you want to achieve.

https://store.do-itmolds.com/Cannon-Ball-SinkerbrSz-12-16_p_607.html

https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&biw=1366&bih=651&ei=-dL5W9H-M5OSjwSIrreIBw&q=Jika+rig&oq=Jika+rig&gs_l=psy-ab.12...0.0..2021...0.0..0.0.0.......0......gws-wiz.MeGxzNbfhbc

https://www.amazon.com/Luengo-Carbon-Offset-Saltwater-Fishing/dp/B01M3X57VJ
Never heard of someone using a Jika rig for Lingcod.
Here has n Alaska the most popular jig for them is the bullet head in 20oz or 24oz with a large grub tail with or without bait.
The molds for larger bullet heads are available from Hilts molds.
I make several large jigs for ling cod but most of mine are CNC custom molds.

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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #13 on: 11/26/18 15:37 UTC »
The Jika rig allows you to use a lot of weight, Yet the plastic lure has no weight to kill the action. Much more action with this method. Free swinging hook also does not let fish have any leverage to throw the hook.

You might want to try it.

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Re: Molds for heavy lures
« Reply #14 on: 11/27/18 07:34 UTC »
Yeah I'm not going to try a Jika rig for this anytime soon but thanks for the suggestion.
I use an assist rigs on many of my jigs and that does the same thing leverage wise.
But I'm thinking the Jika rig is not quite right for this application (saltwater fishing for lingcod in deeper water).
That and I already make a host of big jigs that work awesome for saltwater fishing for Halibut, Lingcod, Rockfish, etc.
The jigs just work well.
And with the right design you need less weight than you would with a Jika rig.
Weights like the cannonball and cod sinker are not as aerodynamic as some of my jigs.
« Last Edit: 11/27/18 07:37 UTC by Kasilofchrisn »