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Offline Johnny Bass

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Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« on: 10/26/22 13:30 UTC »
Hello everyone,
    I am looking to dapple into some airbrushing. Does anyone here have any good places (sites, links, etc..) to start for getting some information such as getting started, equipment etc. I know Youtube is a must and I have found some good info but its seems to be flooded.

I think the main thing I need to focus on here, equipment wise, is a good airbrush, paint, a hose, and a good compressor? correct? 

Anyone info would help...

Take care.

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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #1 on: 10/26/22 14:09 UTC »
You're pretty much on track JB.

Do-It carries a full line of everything you need really. Personally, I like a compressor that has the pressure gauge and water trap already attached. For guns I prefer those which have the cup on the top of the barrel, not the ones with the low-slung cup that detaches. A com pressor of this type allows you to fine tune air pressure to specific paints and paint thicknesses. The brush with the integral cup is cleaner and offers much more control of paints.

As much as I love the bait blast paints and cleaners, etc, I am going to suggest starting out using Createx's regular, plain jane, acrylics. They're water based and water clean-up, but most of all they have a significantly slower set-up time, meaning you can spray without hurrying. The Bait Blast is a rapid dry/set-up acrylic and can create problems when one is just starting to get their feet wet with airbrushing and not having to feel rushed with things is just a nice thing. Once you have sprayed a bit and feel confident in using your equipment, then dive into the Bait Blast products.... which I think are superior to any of the others. Bait Blast paints are tough, and, in fact, I have painted a bait in the morning and not bothered to seal it so I could fish it the same afternoon and at the end of the day the lure showed no wear whatever. I do suggest sealing newly painted baits, especially if eyes are used, but the paint is tough enough to just go fishing after a couple hours of dry time.

Do-It also has a great line-up of bait blanks [paint ready], finish sealer, eyes, split rings, hooks, stencils as well as the equipment which makes them as close as one can get to one stop shopping.

Once you get started in air brushing, you'll find that your plastic making has elements that can be used in air brushing too. Hi Lite powders added to paint colors make superb pearls and by mixing more than one color of hi lite to basic clear Bait Blast one can make some super interesting topcoats. White, small particle color shift pigments can be added to clear and get sprayed over dark colors or black to make some knock-out finished too.

Read then re-read several times the instruction info that comes with the gun, then grab some printer paper, fill the gun and start practicing. Dots, lines, feathering.... practice, practice, practice! Then get on a bait blank. If using createx and NOT heat setting any of the coats, you can use a toothbrush and cool running water to wash any mishaps or smudges off even after it's dry, so you have some cushion there. Keep your mind open and if you start getting flustered clean up and put things away for the day and start anew another day. Pay attention to things and take notes.

Most of all have fun with air brushing. I'm 72 years old and if I can pick it up, anyone can pick it up.
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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #2 on: 10/26/22 18:06 UTC »
Everything ctom said!  As for an air compressor I just use my 2.6 gallon compact air compressor which has a pressure gauge. I added a moisture trap between the compressor and air hose. I am still learning with my Neo from Iwata airbrush. Reasonably priced and parts can be found at Amazon or Hobby Lobby.  I have dropped that microscopic tip twice never to be seen again. The hose for the airbrush I picked up at Amazon (forgot the brand). I would recommend getting some decent airbrush cleaner. A small bucket of warm water will do alright for clearing the brush between colors, but the dedicated cleaners sold help a lot in my opinion. Add some to the cup and spray into a rag or trash can. Colors, all I’ve used this far have been Specra, Createx and Golden. Createx has been my favorite. The Golden paints need thinning. I do not recommend trying to use acrylic paint that they sell at Walmart or the 53,000 colors that are offered at the craft store. They can work but what a pain getting them to.  As for sealing. I either brush on a few light coats of CS Seal Coat or UV resin and cure in a UV box. A side note. One of my biggest problems is using to heavy coats of paint on the baits. Light coats and fade the colors together. 

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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #3 on: 10/27/22 08:42 UTC »
Hey Johnny Bass!

If you are looking for a complete guide to getting started on everything airbrushing - check out the How We Do-it Series on our Website. The entire video series is created by us and Devon Christian from Debo's Fishing is the expert in Airbrushing we brought in to break things down! I'll attach a link to the "Getting Started Airbrushing" video. It goes through everything you need, and all the setup and settings to get you airbrushing like a pro right away! There are 8 super helpful videos that cover every step of the process to making a finished bait. The "Solving Common Airbrushing Issues" video is also a must watch -  I'll drop a link to that as well!

Getting Started: https://store.do-itmolds.com/how-we-do-it-getting-started-airbrushing
Solving Airbrushing Issues: https://store.do-itmolds.com/how-we-do-it-getting-started-airbrushing


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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #4 on: 10/27/22 12:44 UTC »
These videos really do a good job of guiding the newcomer thru the airbrush basics.
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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #5 on: 10/28/22 07:04 UTC »
Dude! You guys are awesome!

   Great information guys thank you!...I think this airbrushing thing is going to get addicting.

What kind of brands to do you guys mess with as far as primers before you actually paint the baits?

This is what I am thinking of getting...

1. Neo CN Gravity Iwata airbrush
 
2. Iwata-Medea - Power Jet Pro Air Compressor (IS975) I know its pricy but you can use 2 brushes at once, which can save time. But thinking I am going to get heavily involved in this, so why not spend for the quality.

3. Createx Paint (airbrush & wicked colors ) Does Createx make a good primer? Or what are some good ones?

4. Iwata-Medea Universal Spray Out Pot, Iwata-Medea Air Hose, Iwata-Medea Quick Disconnect Set

Anything else that are musts that I should get here?

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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #6 on: 10/28/22 07:12 UTC »
I just use white as a base color on lure bodies that don't have the foil inside for reflectivity or if I want to keep the shiny lead from showing thru the real colors. More importantly, wash the bare blanks and any lead well with alcohol and a paper towel and allow to dry thoroughly before the actual painting begins. Any little spot of oil or a bit of lint or dust will show up on your paint job and the care taken early on will reward you.

The Wicked colors handle a bit differently than the regular Createx colors so I think I'd hold off getting right into those until you understand the airbrush a bit. The two paints play well when mixed together or sprayed over each other. Paint colors right out of the bottle seldom trip my trigger so I like to blend colors to get the color I want and the Createx Wicked and standard do that nicely.
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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #7 on: 10/28/22 18:53 UTC »
I often times will lightly scuff up the blank with a fine sanding sponge, masking tape on the bill, wipe down the blank with alcohol on a microfiber cloth. Opaque white base as a primer and then run my colors starting with the belly then sides then the back and around the eyes. I have found those helping hands are handy to get the correct angle while spraying. Hemostats attached to the line tie works good too.  As for trying to run two airbrush at once, I have trouble keeping one going let alone two.
Cleaning the brush. I try to do a good clean after each use. A good spray out with Iwata cleaner and those cheap small art paint brushes are handy for loosing up any stubborn paint left in the cup or around the needle tip. After a few sessions I tear the brush down and soak all the parts in a small sonic cleaner. A  few cycles half full with water and a small amount of super clean or other type of degreaser cleaner. Just keep it thinned down.

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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #8 on: 10/28/22 20:20 UTC »
Oh yes. A clean brush is a happy brush.
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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #9 on: 10/29/22 10:11 UTC »
Just as a sidenote midwest airbrush supply is having a 15% off sale thru holloween.  Great place to get your createx colors from,
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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #10 on: 10/30/22 19:54 UTC »
Okay cool,
How many base coats of primer (createx opague white) would you guys suggest and how long should you wait between priming coats?

Will rubbing alcohol work fine to wipe down a blank when primed and or when a color is fully dry?

How long should you wait for the paint (createx airbrushing colors) to dry in between colors when painting?

Can you direct me to a or more info on the......Small Sonic Cleaner - link?   &  The  Super Clean solution ( already thinned? ) - link?





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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #11 on: 10/30/22 20:50 UTC »
Okay cool,
How many base coats of primer (createx opague white) would you guys suggest and how long should you wait between priming coats?

As many light coats as it takes to get a nice even white.


Will rubbing alcohol work fine to wipe down a blank when primed and or when a color is fully dry?

Rubbing alcohol is fine. Walmart sells a 91% and that's what I use.


How long should you wait for the paint (createx airbrushing colors) to dry in between colors when painting?

Use a hair dryer set on high to heat set each coat then you can go from one color right into another.

Can you direct me to a or more info on the......Small Sonic Cleaner - link?   &  The  Super Clean solution ( already thinned? ) - link?
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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures -
« Reply #12 on: 10/31/22 07:02 UTC »
Great

So maybe 5-10 minutes in between colors until next ?

What kind of small sonic cleaner do you use and what brand solution do you use or what degreaser is good to use?


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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #13 on: 10/31/22 08:33 UTC »
I don't use a sonic cleaner. For Createx paints I use Createx cleaner or water. For Do-It paint products I use Do-It reducer and Do-It cleaner. I thoroughly clean my brush with the cleaner after every color.

If you heat set with the hair dryer you can go from one color to the next in the time it takes to do the heat set and clean the brush. When heat setting Createx paints they'll go from sort of shiny to a matte when the set is complete.
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Re: Airbrushing Baits/Lures
« Reply #14 on: 10/31/22 09:50 UTC »
Awesome, so I would assume like 15min or so or till the shine of the paint becomes matte.

As far as clear coats, I have found that a lot of people are using Devcon ( 2 parts ) Epoxy resin clear and 2 ton Hardener clear.  What are your thoughts and or is this a good clear coat to use?

What other good clears coats are great?

I dont understand about the drying and drying rack and I will make one. I will be build a drying drum.
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