Different laminate "plate"?

[ghostbaits]

As I contemplate how I am going to struggle with the tiny baits and a laminate plate, I wonder if you could just put a divider down the sprue to direct the plastic properly?

I did draw this out and mail the picture to myself  as it should be less expensive to make, easier to manipulate, and accomplish the same results without having to cut the runner, etc.

If you want to do a single color, just remove the divider plate and shoot.

Think I just solved one of my issues..... 

Jim

[captian chaos]

I recon you are on to someting there.
What do you say Jason ?

[Brent]

not sure what your after, but if you take the small ice pick it could be one color and insert in to the nano fry, or small fry, there is two colors use the lami plate and you have 3 color.
the ice pick can also be used to do a 2 color 1 5/8 ice pick
Little Atom already does a 2 color wedgie style.

[ghostbaits]

What I was after was not having to remove the sprue or manipulate the baits and still get a great laminate. I use the twinjector without issue now but some have trouble and use the laminate plates.

After seeing posts and discussing how these are used, it seems like a lot of manipulation.

A single divider plate in the sprue area will accomplish what the laminate plates do but with zero manipulation of the baits and sprue. Will eliminate a bunch of time and, for some, a bunch of headaches.

Just thinking....

Jim

[CrabbyBass]

Sounds like an awesome idea!!!  This would make more lures come out perfect each and everytime.  The lure will not float on ya and go underneath the first color. 

[Jason]

Sounds good and should be easy to test with foil.

Jason

[captian chaos]

Sounds like an awesome idea!!!  This would make more lures come out perfect each and everytime.  The lure will not float on ya and go underneath the first color.

I  thought i was the only one that had that trouble. Any one got any sugestions???

[ghostbaits]

Ok, in the "patent pending" drawing I mailed myself      , I would cut the mold with a slight indent in the sprue so that you could just slide the divider into the sprue once the mold is closed. If you wanted to make a single color bait, just leave the divider out as normal and shoot mold.

I have tested a few times with foil and it seems to work perfectly. Wish I had some of the thicker stuff guys were talking about to use.

Testing with plastisol that has 2 far different temps will be the deal. So far, I have just used plastisol I was normally shooting so the temps were close.

The other reason this will be nice is for de-lamination of the baits with the current system. Unless you dip over the baits, you can easily peel the 2 halves apart, no matter how hot the second shot is and how soon after you shoot it. If you wait hours or days, when you go to hook the bait, the hook will split the halves with ease.

Jim

[andrewlamberson]

Here's the aluminum sheet that I use for two sided baits. It's a LOT stiffer than aluminum foil...but still can be clamped into the mold:

http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/36-gauge-aluminum-roll-864678/

For example on a carrot I put a sheet in the mold, clamped it shut. Trimmed the edges and marked  the sprue. I then took it out of the mold...and cut the sprue slot.

I end up with two halves of a bait..same color. I make a bunch up, then reinsert and shoot the 2nd color....

A "poor man's laminate plate".

This gage aluminum works a LOT better than even heavy duty kitchen aluminum foil.


I have never tried just making it big enough to cover the sprue and the front of the runner to see if I get a true laminate,......I'll try it tonight.

[pjmcla]

The Hobby Lobby foil works pretty well.  But; it is still foil; and will crimp and deform unless handled gently.  I find the foil more difficult to use than a laminate plate, but it does create two bait halves with one injection ( if the color is one that you want on both halves ).  I thought some of Jason's laminate plates did not have a full runner on the plate side. 

[andrewlamberson]

I still buy the laminate plates! They work a heck of a lot better. The advantage of the laminate plates are durability and a perfectly flat, uniform lamination.

But for full round or any side up baits you can double your production if you need quantity.

Plus ...I may have few molds that ...ummmm.....don't have laminate plates available 

But in my defense....I purchased them before I found out about CCM 

[ghostbaits]

Guess I need to show you guys a drawing. I am not talking about putting the foil in the cavities. I am talking about putting the divider in the sprue area.

You would never have to remove the baits or manipulate the molds at all.

Just add the divider plate or not.

Jim

[pieterbez]

How about an injector nozzle that only injects half of the spruce when using the lammie plates.
Remove the lammie plate and inject the rest of the bait.