I was, incidentally, able to find a few of those hooks mentioned in that thread in a 2-3 sizes in my tackle shop, (I knew there were there the whole time... right?) so I'm gonna see what I can do with them in the near future... I've got them laying on the counter down there so I don't forget about them. I've been kinda busy playing with plastics and other stuff around here recently. I'll likely post something up down there in the "lead threads" soon... ("lead threads"... haha... I sorta like that, might be a good name for a blog or something)