This is slick

[ctom]

Literally. We've had freezing rain for almost the whole day here. Snow to the north of us along with the freezing rain.

I have a driveway the runs sharply downhill and a corner to make the garage door. I back down off the street for occasions like this so all I need do is hit the gas in a dry garage and hope I make the turn. lol I'm thinking I have near to 3/4" of ice on the drive and sidewalks here....no idea of how much fell to the east where Andrew resides. With the radar showing the storm as done for tonight I went out to slide around and put down 20 pounds of ice treatment....got another 40 pounds waiting for the morning festivities.

No power outages that I have heard of, but with an increasing wind our night might get interesting with ice laden power lines in the country. Just gotta love this winter....it had all summer to wring the moisture out of the air but saved it for now.

[t-billy]

 It's just now arriving here in the Buckeye state. I doubt the kids will have school tommorrow. Our sissyfied superintendant gave them a 2hr delay twice last week because temps were in the single digits. What? It was only a few degrees warmer when they went. If he had given them the day off my kids would've been out sledding all day. Makes no sense at all.

[ctom]

"Our sissyfied superintendant".....I love the description. Now personally I think if they get a day off due to weather, it gets tacked on at the end of the school year. Period.

And I think that as long as the teachers are paid an "annual" salary, but have the whole summer off, they should either lose the three months salary that they are away [and the benefits for that period] or they can stay at the school for those three months collecting their salary while painting the classrooms and lockers and gym and lunch room, based on an 8 hour day, two 15 minute breaks and a half hour lunch.

Most of the southern 1/3 of Minnesota and a whole bunch of Iowegianville is either delayed two hours or cancelled for tomorrow.

[tpalmer]

You must not have a teacher in your family ctom! If you do I hope they never see this post!!!!!!!!

[gstott]

"Our sissyfied superintendant".....I love the description. Now personally I think if they get a day off due to weather, it gets tacked on at the end of the school year. Period.

And I think that as long as the teachers are paid an "annual" salary, but have the whole summer off, they should either lose the three months salary that they are away [and the benefits for that period] or they can stay at the school for those three months collecting their salary while painting the classrooms and lockers and gym and lunch room, based on an 8 hour day, two 15 minute breaks and a half hour lunch.

Most of the southern 1/3 of Minnesota and a whole bunch of Iowegianville is either delayed two hours or cancelled for tomorrow.

Teachers don't get paid squat around here.  My wife works 12 hour days typically, but being on salary only gets paid for the time that the kids are there, has a masters degree, has won multiple awards at her school and during grad school, and gets paid about $35000 after being at the school for five years.  I on the other hand, am finishing school and don't have a degree, get paid for every minute I'm there, and make roughly the same amount.  I'm guessing you've never been on salary, it goes both ways. 

[Lamar]

Teachers don't get paid squat around here.  My wife works 12 hour days typically, but being on salary only gets paid for the time that the kids are there, has a masters degree, has won multiple awards at her school and during grad school, and gets paid about $35000 after being at the school for five years.  I on the other hand, am finishing school and don't have a degree, get paid for every minute I'm there, and make roughly the same amount.  I'm guessing you've never been on salary, it goes both ways.

  For the degree they have and the continuing education they have to do. They don't get paid squat. One of the most underpaid jobs out there.

[ctom]

Sorry, but I am old school. You get paid for the time you are doing work.

With our current economic climate, the last thing we need in any form of government is poor spending practices and paying people for a year while they only work 8 1/2 months doesn't cut it with me. I am dead against any form of union in any form of government as well.

This thread was started to maybe talk about ice being a problem in the region where I live....maybe as far south even as Do-It's home office. If you want some of my political viewpoints you can try e-mailing me, but don't count on a reply. That said, we have a mess here this morning and we are in the bullseye of all of this. We got lucky here because the snow they got further north came after the ice and then some areas got more rain atop of the snow. From the sound of things we're going to stay warm enough to get a round two of the same stuff. 31 degrees here right now. When the sun hits the trees we should be in for a sight....if the sun shows.

I know Iowa got nailed too. Is it bad down at Do-It? All of the northern tier counties in Iowa and most all of the southern 1/3 of MN are slow to open or closed.

[gstott]

I agree, they should get paid for the time worked.  They don't get paid for all the extra hours they stay after work, coming in on weekends, or all the time spent at home working on things for their students.  And what actually happens, is they don't give her the full amount she earned every month.  They split up the amount and disperse it throughout the year so that she continues to get paychecks over the summer.  So in effect, she is actually getting laid off every summer.  So I agree with you, I wish she did get paid for every hour she works.  Now our benefits have gone down the toilet on top of it.  They keep chipping away, year by year at the things that make it a decent job.  It is no wonder they can't keep any good teachers in the schools, they have little incentive to stick around.  I often wish my wife would leave the schools and work in a hospital or rehab where she could make $40-50/hr, but she enjoys here students too much to leave.  If she gets a couple of months paid vacation in the summer, I consider it the least they could do for all of her hard work.

Anyway, back to the original content of the thread.  We actually got freezing rain here in Utah.  It pretty much never happens and everybody was driving like it was rain.  There were hundreds of accidents.  I'm glad I had the day off    Now for several straight days of snow.  I guess it beats the month straight of lows in the negative teens and highs in the low single digits that we've been having.  Spring can't come soon enough.  I've got some bass to pester.

[Bassman2169]

If you could kick the freezing rain on down to Kansas, we'd take it.  Moisture in any form.  Wheat looks horrible, and lots of lakes were inaccessible last year from the drought.  Now they've bout dried up or have dried up.  Hope all affected pull through without any problems, good luck.   Joey

[t-billy]

 No school today. We got some freezing rain early last night. It turned to rain before midnight and drizzled all night with temps above freezing. The roads were perfectly clear when my wife went to work at 5:30 this morning. When I was in school it took at least 8" of snow overnight, or a significant ice storm to cancel school. Back then, "the 70's and 80's" our super actually went out and drove around to see what the roads were like before cancelling. Apparently that requires too much effort these days. ---Tim.

[ctom]

We're super dry here too Bass. Where I am at this rain fell on exposed ground for the most part so lots of it went IN the ground. Darned little frost here right now.

[floridagrimp]

hope u guys weather/school issues get worked out.

on the school pay, maybe, just maybe, if the teacher's union (NEA) would stop giving more money to the democrats than any other union (and that's saying something)and if they trimmed the 30% of all revenue received that go to teacher's pensions, maybe there would be money to..I dunno, give hard working teachers more money!!

median teachers salary??? 50 k plus benefits...not bad money..plus benefits!!
http://www1.salary.com/Public-School-Teacher-Salary.html

and plz, b/4 any self righteous souls chime in and say take this somewhere else...note I didn't start the thread.  selah

and Plz join FINMOR, the new plastisol injector's union (that's Fisherman In Need of More Operating Revenue)

[ghostbaits]

The south is nice..... 

Might let my wife, 15 years of teaching special education, give you a verbal lashing Tom!!!

She has a Masters and a 6 year degree, just below a doctorate. Has not had a raise in 7 years now. It is a pity that they are expected to turn out the brightest students but on a limited pay themselves.

Not to mention the have to go out and buy most of their supplies now. I think we must be wasting to much money on salt up in the Northern States so the feds can't send us the extra monies promised... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go look at where the US is ranked in math, science, etc. Until an emphasis (money talks, bullsplit walks in my book) is put on teachers, teachers salaries, we will continue to linger at the bottom of the list....

Oh yeah, 80 here tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     

Jim

[gstott]

No school today. We got some freezing rain early last night. It turned to rain before midnight and drizzled all night with temps above freezing. The roads were perfectly clear when my wife went to work at 5:30 this morning. When I was in school it took at least 8" of snow overnight, or a significant ice storm to cancel school. Back then, "the 70's and 80's" our super actually went out and drove around to see what the roads were like before cancelling. Apparently that requires too much effort these days. ---Tim.

I think it depends on where you live.  I grew up in Connecticut and we usually had several snow days a year.  Out here in Utah, I never once had a snow day in the three years of high school I attended, and my wife has never had school cancel in the past five years she has been doing this.  And we get some nasty storms up here.  2+ feet with high winds, white out conditions and heavy drifting sometimes, and they still don't cancel.  We had to get her a 4wd vehicle.

[gstott]

If you could kick the freezing rain on down to Kansas, we'd take it.  Moisture in any form.  Wheat looks horrible, and lots of lakes were inaccessible last year from the drought.  Now they've bout dried up or have dried up.  Hope all affected pull through without any problems, good luck.   Joey

I hear you.  As much as I hate driving to work in bad weather, we are kind of in the same boat out here in Utah.  We had a very dry and mild winter last year followed by a hot dry summer.  My favorite little bass reservoir was drained to the bottom of the spillway.  There was a couple of feet of water left, but the pelicans took care of the survivors.  It was a truly sad sight to see piles of dead bass rotting in the sun.  Hopefully some of the snow we've been getting will make it your way.