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Offline Mic0157

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Adding tails
« on: 02/11/13 16:56 UTC »
I'm seeing molds for different tail designs that are stand alone molds. So, how does the separate worm become attached to the worm?
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Offline jl3140

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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #1 on: 02/11/13 17:16 UTC »
Well you shoot the tail  mold, then put the tail into the regular mold and shoot the regular mold with a little hotter plastic. Then the hotter plastic bonds to the tail and BOOM there's a full bait with a different color tail lol. That's how I think it works, I've never used them but I've cut the tails off of some baits and replaced them back into the mold for a different body color on the bait.

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Offline Justin9j

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Adding tails
« Reply #2 on: 02/11/13 17:52 UTC »
Josh is 100% right
BOOM!!!   Ha ha.
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Offline Jerry V

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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #3 on: 02/11/13 18:55 UTC »
Yup... BOOM !

It's just that easy.  (boom is a fun word to say, by the way.  I like it.)

Jerry
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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #4 on: 02/11/13 19:10 UTC »
Quote from: Jerry V on 02/11/13 18:55 UTC
Yup... BOOM !

It's just that easy.  (boom is a fun word to say, by the way.  I like it.)

Jerry
It's a great word... awesome really  ;D
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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #5 on: 02/11/13 19:17 UTC »
It get's the point across that's for sure.

There's a name for words like that, but I don't recall what it is right now.  (Mrs. Bitterman would sure be disappointed).  It could be I'm getting old or it could be that I'm just too lazy to look it up, but it's words that sound like their meaning.  There are other words in this "English" language we speak today like that too.
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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #6 on: 02/11/13 19:20 UTC »
nevermind... I'm not as lazy as I thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onomatopoeia

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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #7 on: 02/26/13 20:46 UTC »
I'm having problems having 2 piece laminates (either tail and body, or upper body and belly) coming "unlaminated".  How much hotter should my second shot be.  I am usually shooting at around 350-370 degrees.  Isn't that hot enough?

Thanks,
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Offline MonteSS

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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #8 on: 02/26/13 21:14 UTC »
That should be hot enough. Hold a little extra pressure and longer.

I make the tails/claws in a floating formula and that works great.

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Offline pjmcla

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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #9 on: 02/26/13 23:13 UTC »
Make sure the face of the laminate part is clean and not oily.
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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #10 on: 02/27/13 08:12 UTC »
Quote from: atexaspete on 02/26/13 20:46 UTC
I'm having problems having 2 piece laminates (either tail and body, or upper body and belly) coming "unlaminated".  How much hotter should my second shot be.  I am usually shooting at around 350-370 degrees.  Isn't that hot enough?

Thanks,
Mike

I usually make my belly/tail colors with some softener added to the plastic. Then when I shoot the top or body color I add some stabilizer and heat just a hair warmer than 350, maybe to 360, inject and then keep pressure on the injector for about 6-10 seconds. I don't see any delamination issues doing it this way.

If what you plan to shoot is going to be a lam and the mold is cold, warm the mold up first either in a skillet or run a couple shots of hot scrap plastic heated to 370 thru it ....I like to run the hot scrap plastic thru the mold three times and leave the castings in place for about twenty seconds so the heat gets into the mold.
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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #11 on: 03/28/13 21:48 UTC »
I just got my molds and am very new at this.  seems that what ive read, the soft formula is obviously softer, but offers more action than say a regular formula?  Reason i am asking is i shot some blue with blue flake claws for, y mad dad craw for a black body.  I was hoping the soft formula claws would have more action to them.  ( that and i ordered a gallon of each formula and quickly realized that the regular is perfect for what i like).   I guess my question is has anyome else used a soft tail/ claw and will it hold up? 
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« Reply #12 on: 03/28/13 22:26 UTC »
Yes and yes.  A soft plastic claw or will have more action.  They are somewhat more susceptible to bream / small bass predation, esp in some colors on claws, but worth it if you want higher action.     
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Offline gone2long

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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #13 on: 03/29/13 05:51 UTC »
Just my observation: I poured my first laminated frog, the standard hand poured belly and injected top. I was getting good clean lines at the lamination but if I pulled at the seam they separated completely like they were oiled first. went through this for the first 5 baits and had to take a time out due to frustration well needless to say I made no changes at all to temp or formula just let the darn things cool longer than my normal handling and poof! they wouldn't even rip at the seam all that and its was just time issue, argh :D
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Offline BiteMeBaits

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Re: Adding tails
« Reply #14 on: 03/29/13 09:52 UTC »
I had the same prob of separation with my claws too.  I just thought they were oily so i cut a sidge off them.  I never thougt about using patience!  I am usually so pumped about seeing each bait pop out that i forget to take my time!  Good info.  Chase
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