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Offline JOHN62

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The tubes and skirts are coming out sticky/tacky. Any suggestions? 
Also, when do you use Heat stabelizer??
And, if I want to incorperate coffee as a scent, do I use coffee grounds, freeze dried or decaf? Just kidding on the decaf! I bought the coffees from CC, but I want a stronger scent.
Thanks for your help!  John

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Re: I'm melting some old soft plastics into tubes shapes.
« Reply #1 on: 02/13/13 04:55 UTC »
What plastic are you using, brand? They all need to be shaken before use. If its not ccm or M-F, then you may have hard packing and that will need to be stirred until you get it off the bottom of the container. Make sure you cook it to 350 degrees.

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Re: I'm melting some old soft plastics into tubes shapes.
« Reply #2 on: 02/13/13 04:59 UTC »
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Also, when do you use Heat stabelizer??
I'll answer this part because it's the only answer I have. I add in before the initial heating and again after about 2 heatings. I just add about 8 drops each time, or a little more for clearer colors. If the color is a dark green or a black, I usually add less.

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Re: I'm melting some old soft plastics into tubes shapes.
« Reply #3 on: 02/13/13 05:22 UTC »
What plastic are you using, brand? They all need to be shaken before use. If its not ccm or M-F, then you may have hard packing and that will need to be stirred until you get it off the bottom of the container. Make sure you cook it to 350 degrees.
What plastic are you using, brand? They all need to be shaken before use. If its not ccm or M-F, then you may have hard packing and that will need to be stirred until you get it off the bottom of the container. Make sure you cook it to 350 degrees.
I'm using CCM for my new baits. BUT, for now I'm melting some of my old grubs, craws and worms into my CC tube mold. Who's plastic Yum, Yamamoto, etc. used, I don't know. What is  M-F? I have seen the hard packing? I assumed it was salt in the lure.  Thanks!

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Re: I'm melting some old soft plastics into tubes shapes.
« Reply #4 on: 02/13/13 06:10 UTC »
  From what I have found Yum and Power Baits do not re melt well. It's something in the way they're made but I would stay away from those two brands. Yamamoto has a lot of salt in theres so it will sink.

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Re: I'm melting some old soft plastics into tubes shapes.
« Reply #5 on: 02/13/13 06:19 UTC »
Hard packing is when the agents in the plastisol separates. If your baits still come out sticky you may not be cooking it to the proper temp.

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Re: I'm melting some old soft plastics into tubes shapes.
« Reply #6 on: 02/13/13 09:51 UTC »
Just started using heat stabilizer but 4 drops to a cup works wonders for me.  I carry that ratio through bigger runs and I can't believe how much it helps.  I have been putting it in after the initial 350 degree heating.  Smokes a lot more but I have gotten a mask after looking at the posts about ventilation; I highly recommend the mask also.  I don't smell plastic and can sit beside the wife when she pulls out a cancer stick...haha

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Re: I'm melting some old soft plastics into tubes shapes.
« Reply #7 on: 02/13/13 14:31 UTC »
About remelting Powerbait and Yum baits...I've been remelting aLOT of Yum F2 baits here lately.  Some have been collecting for some time, others I found marked way down that I bought just for remelting.  Yum's are loaded with salt so the 1st melt is only to melt and set aside to let most of the salt sink, then I cut the salt bar off the bottom, cut up the rest for remelting into baits.  You lose some flake this way but flake can be added again.  I've remelted a bunch of this plastic...some straight, some mixed with others...into some FINE baits.  Junebug, Virgo Blue, Black and Blue, to name a few...all Yum F2 remelts into 2" Gliders.  Then they're cured for a few days, scented as I bag 'em.

Now, the Berkley Powerbait...I bought 200 Power Worms, 2 colors...Green Pumpkin and Tequila Sunrise.  These baits are not salted and remelt just fine, but a man must prepare himself for what he is about to inflict on his sense of smell before he embarks on this endeavor.  Powerbait is loaded with some kind of finely-ground substance that my nose perceives as "perishable", surely an organic creature that once lived, but the species is a mystery.  Probably the best advice I can give to anyone remelting Powerbait is to add about 25% (or a little more) of plastic that's not salted and not Powerbait, to give the baits a little more durability because the Powerbait substance makes the baits weak, and I assure You, the fish will smell, very much so, a bait that has been made from Powerbait but "cut" with a little "clean" plastic.

Bro...with Yum, Zoom, Berkley Powerbait, any oil-based plastic bait...remelt it up.  It does just fine.  I am, however, using a pot and electric burner, not a cup and microwave (I highly recommend this method!).

Now, any store-bought baits that come in a water-based liquid are made from a water-based plastisol...and 1, DO NOT MIX with standard oil-based plastic...and 2, so far I don't know how to get the water-based baits to re-solidify!  They melt and stay gooey.

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Re: I'm melting some old soft plastics into tubes shapes.
« Reply #8 on: 02/13/13 14:40 UTC »
I had 2 packs of Stanley Ribbit's in Green Pumpkin/Red flake/Pearl belly, and 2 packs of Zoom Super Flukes in Baby Bass.  There is no granulated salt in either of these baits (praise God).  I cut all these baits up and remelted them into 1 color then shot the finest Baby Bass color I've ever seen, in strictly 2" Gliders.  Bro...I'll say again...remelt, it, up.  Once You get Your melt upto temp, hold the temp for a little while to let the air bubbles come to the top then shoot baits that are as good as baits made with fresh plastic.
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Re: I'm melting some old soft plastics into tubes shapes.
« Reply #9 on: 02/13/13 16:26 UTC »
Hey Bones...re the remelting of the Powerbait worms.  Do you think...is it possible...that you found Jimmy Hoffa?
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Re: I'm melting some old soft plastics into tubes shapes.
« Reply #10 on: 02/13/13 18:28 UTC »
Mr. Denny...negative on the Hoffa, he was found alive last week...this smells more like Osama Bin Laden.
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