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Offline jmatheny9

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Oil in bags
« on: 02/14/14 20:51 UTC »
So I realize that over time the oil in bags soaks in to the bait and you have to reapply. But my baits are getting dry within a week and I don't get it. When I first apply, I usually put 5 drops or so in the bag and the baits are thoroughly oiled after that (at least I think). I'd like to say, I'm not using the laminate bags, just ziplocks. Could the oil be evaporating through the thin bag?


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Offline Bugpac

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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #1 on: 02/15/14 01:03 UTC »
Its absorbing into the bait.

Offline jmatheny9

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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #2 on: 02/15/14 06:01 UTC »
Them how much do I use to where I don't have to bother with them for a good while? It's upper hand scents oil


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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #3 on: 02/15/14 07:30 UTC »
Are you selling them or just using them yourself?  If you're just using them yourself I wouldn't worry about it.

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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #4 on: 02/15/14 10:25 UTC »
This is just my way- I add scent oil to the bag when I bag baits to 1, scent, of course...after a few days or a week or so, the oil is just about gone...the baits have absorbed it, and are now well scented (fish have keen sense of smell).  2, the oil helps the baits settle into the bag which reduces post-bag cure-curling (plastic changes over time, even a 7-day cure won't ensure perfect baits) and is just more Right for the baits to have settled in and aren't balled up.

Sometimes, if I want to, and I want be baits to smell strong, I'll add 10-20 more drops of scent oil after they've absorbed the initial dose, work the scent through the baits and settle them back into the bag...done.  Personally, I like a dry bait, I don't like my baits to be slippery when I'm fishing, because that's more I have to wipe off my hands, more I could have on my hands when I need to be concentrating on the rod.  The baits will last a L-O-O-O-N-G time dry in the bag, without scent oil or worm oil.  A dry bait is easier to handle when rigging it, and my fingers aren't oiled afterwards, so I can get after 'em.

So it is said, the scent oil does not have to be "oily" on the bait for the fish to smell it.  Once the baits absorb the oil, the bait is better scented than if the oil was just ON the bait, and the bait will remain scented longer after it absorbs the scent oil...the oil won't just wash off.

This is just me, though. 
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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #5 on: 02/15/14 19:44 UTC »
I agree with BKJ on the dry bait thing... gotta keep that snuff pure!  OK, so he didn't say that, but I also hate oily worms.  If I forget (or don't put enough in) prior to injecting I may re-melt, but once I'm shut down, what the worms have is what they have.  (I know an unscented bait is inferior to scented, but I gotta keep my snuff pure.)

I read somewhere (don't remember where) that a test was done comparing cooked in scent lures to applied afterward lures... don't remember much about it other than the cooked in scent won by a small margin (maybe 60/40 or something similar).  They seemed to have a fairly reliable test from what I remember.  (If someone knows where the test was/is, please post a link.)
 

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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #6 on: 02/15/14 19:56 UTC »
Someone know where to get "SMELT" scent oil (Spiering oil)??

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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #7 on: 02/15/14 20:10 UTC »
Roger on what EFishNC said...and touching on cooking-in scent...cooking scent in can waste some scent oil by "evaporating off" some of the oil (not sure on what percentage can be lost).  I used to cook-in scent until I read that, now I just add it to the bag...but this is just my thinking.

And X2 on Scented Baits being Superior to unscented baits...I watched it happen, now I'm a Scented Believer...follow the Evidence...
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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #8 on: 02/15/14 20:41 UTC »
In my personal bait bags I don't mind at all the baits being dry. But that being said, I do sell on a small scale and oily baits are shiny baits. Shiny and slick looking baits might not matter to the fish, but it does catch the fisherman. I was also told that my problem is the ziplock bags and the oil evaporating through the thin plastic. So 1) I need laminate bags and 2) I'm in the market for a cheap oil to use on top of my scent. I have been scouring the internet and found that trapping outfitters have a fish oil for only around $21 a gallon. So that'll probably be what ends up going in the bags on fish imitating baits.

I'm a believer on the scents. Anything to help catch that extra fish is okay in my books


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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #9 on: 02/15/14 20:44 UTC »
BKJ: Going from oily, to slightly sticky, to completely dry... how dry do your worms get? 

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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #10 on: 02/15/14 20:55 UTC »
Laminated bags keep the house from smelling like crawfish. It doesnt keep oil from evaporating. Oil isnt going to evaporate at room temp... the scent is absorbing into the bait. Id be carefull what you put on them. You may have some super nasty junk baits..

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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #11 on: 02/15/14 21:50 UTC »
I understand. Just hard for me to pay $60 a gallon for shiny baits haha


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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #12 on: 02/15/14 21:57 UTC »
2 drops of worm oil will shine them up...

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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #13 on: 02/15/14 22:08 UTC »

2 drops of worm oil will shine them up...
thats just my problem though. The baits are getting dry within a week this way


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Re: Oil in bags
« Reply #14 on: 02/15/14 22:18 UTC »
Put it in before you sell them... :)