I'm glad you had a chance to get out and visit with Tommy, that's pretty cool. He's a good friend of mine and I've seen a number of his seminars. If you're into ice fishing and have a chance to see his seminar or visit with him about that side of fishing, you won't be disappointed. Many people would be surprised to find out how diversified Mr. April can be as it pertains to fish, fishing and fisheries. He really is as rounded an angler as I know.