HDA problems need help please

[Fontebassfishing]

well got my hda and my first pour seemed ok but took longer to heat up and starts out really gummy nut then I tried to make so mo milk senkos and it wouldn't heat up just was really gummy then finally got it and when it shoot the senkos have what looks like air bubbles in it and it will not shoot all they way so I get dents I would post a pic but not sure how on my laptop and the senkos a stretchy and get stuck longer if you pull them even after they cool I mix it well before I put it in and then after and im putting it in the plastic cold like it says to even mixing in between heating idk what to do so any info will help thanks 

[jmatheny9]

Ive never had this problem before but the plastic with HDA in it does take a touch longer to heat up ( I don't know why). Your baits should be a little bit softer but should not be sticky or gummy like you're explaining. My first thought would be that your plastic itself wasn't shaken up enough before cooking. Second would be, How much HDA did you add to what amount of plastic? The HDA shouldn't effect if there are air bubbles or if the cavity wasn't filling completely. Not sure though, maybe some others will have ideas you can try.

[ctom]

The plastic is getting under-cooked or hasn't been thoroughly shaken up in the box before use if it is gummy and sticky.

If I am not mistaken the HD product is a silica based product. The HD and the plastic may be heating at different rates, thus the longer cooking time, but I haven't seen much banter in this regard before, at least about the HD. I do know that HD requires a ton of stirring before each injection or it will settle and get thick on the bottom of your cooking container.

You don't mention temperatures....using a probe type thermometer is an absolute must to cook plastic properly. And you don't mention how you are cooking the plastic....microwave, presto pot. I don't use the HD but I'd be willing to bet its a temperature issue that you are dealing with or possibly too much of the HD product in your batch of plastic.

[Fontebassfishing]

The plastic is getting under-cooked or hasn't been thoroughly shaken up in the box before use if it is gummy and sticky.

If I am not mistaken the HD product is a silica based product. The HD and the plastic may be heating at different rates, thus the longer cooking time, but I haven't seen much banter in this regard before, at least about the HD. I do know that HD requires a ton of stirring before each injection or it will settle and get thick on the bottom of your cooking container.

You don't mention temperatures....using a probe type thermometer is an absolute must to cook plastic properly. And you don't mention how you are cooking the plastic....microwave, presto pot. I don't use the HD but I'd be willing to bet its a temperature issue that you are dealing with or possibly too much of the HD product in your batch of plastic.

Im using 2 table spoons in about half a cup of plastic and im shaking the heck out of my box of plastic before i use maybe i gotta shake it more and i do need a heating prob just haven't been able to get one yet but ill try using less hda next time and see what happens

[andrewlamberson]

It's not the HDA...Run over to Target and get a digital thermometer in the cooking area that will  register to at least 400 degrees F. The run about $20

[hawgthumper]

Two tablespoons in a half a cup seems a bit much.

[andrewlamberson]

2 tablespoons in 4oz is my standard.

[Carl]

2 tablespoons 4oz also. I'll share my probe temp experience that I had a few weeks ago that wasn't helping me in maintaining even heat. When I removed my cup from the Microwave, I stirred it real good and inserted my probe into my cup. The tip of the probe was resting on the bottom and would give me a reading. Not taken in to account that the work bench surface was 62deg and cooling the bottom of my cup really fast. I could have 320 at the bottom of my cup and the rest of the cup could read anywhere from 340-350. I was assuming that my cup was at 320 when I was shooting Senkos but I was really shooting 340 or better. This was one of a few reasons I was getting inconsistent shots every time.

[Fontebassfishing]

Hmm so not to much hda i guess im getting a thermometer for my friend that you just point at it and it tells you hopefully that helps cause if i keep having problems im going to go to flour salt and im using a microwave to heat

[Carl]

I highly recommend not to use those types of thermometers. They will give you false readings also because you are only reading the top and the accuracy of your cup drops significantly. Stick with the probe. I just have to take my readings from the middle of my cup and not the bottom while it's cooling on the table. I thinks others will say the same thing here.

[Fontebassfishing]

Ah ok will do makes sense to me

[MonteSS]

Could be bas batck of HDA.

And yes baits with HDA will be sticky for a while. Dont pull on them till cured. At least 48 hours