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kipbass

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Big Foot Toad
« on: 01/06/12 20:36 UTC »
Just got some Big Foot Toad molds...How is everyone hanging them after dipping?

Jason, will you tell me the different ways this toad can be fished, or how you fished them so far? Which method produced the best results for catching fish? Of course anyone can offer up advice, I just specified Jason cause I know he has a few techniques.

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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #1 on: 01/06/12 21:13 UTC »
Don't fish them like Andrew has been fishing his  --  "top water baits"  --  :D.

« Last Edit: 01/06/12 21:15 UTC by pjmcla »

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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #2 on: 01/06/12 21:45 UTC »
HEY...... :o.....I actually found some open water at lunch time today and threw some swim shads for a half hour or so. It was a balmy 48 degrees so I just had to get out!

48 degrees in Minnesota on January 6th....the world is coming to an end!

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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #3 on: 01/06/12 22:03 UTC »
You can fish them on top weightless.  You can fish them as a jig trailer (my favorite).  You can C-Rig, T-Rig, Flip.  This bait is very versatile.

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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #4 on: 01/06/12 23:25 UTC »
Sweet! I'll post a pic as soon as their cured..It's close to 70 here in Louisiana, and a full moon is coming...There might be some bass foolish enough to come in and start fanning a bed!

Still need to know how to hang em' onced dipped.

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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #5 on: 01/06/12 23:35 UTC »
Kip- one idea is right after you dip them, throw them in a bucket of water nearby.  (away from the hot plastic of course)  The clear dip will harden right away and you can do a bunch at once then lay them out.


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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #6 on: 01/06/12 23:44 UTC »
Thanks Super..That's so obvious, I must be stupid ??? With the croaker, it had paddle feet to hold in the hanger, I was at a loss. LOL  ;D

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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #7 on: 01/07/12 09:27 UTC »
We just use the same frog hanger we use on the Croakers.  The Toads are actually easier to hang (the feet will hook on just about anything).  I think we hanger that uses dowels would be even easier.

Jason

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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #8 on: 01/07/12 10:28 UTC »
I've been dropping mine into water ...and then onto plexiglass to cure.

I was fishing the bigest toad (the samples I got...I didn't get the mold until Xmas) this fall on a swim jig...without the skirt. I wanted a jig head that would go through the weeds...and a 4/0 hook. I would crank it like a buzz bait when it first hit the water...then let it drop and then fish it back subsurface. The bass and northerns really seem to like to hit it as it started back up from the drop. And I agree with Jason's post...when they hit this thing....the EAT it! No doubt you have a hit!
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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #9 on: 01/07/12 10:54 UTC »
Kip... this might not be in agreement with everyone else BUT i have found that using water is a bad idea. I will NOT use it.

What water does is exactly what everyone says.. cools it FAST. The problem with that though is that clear layer does NOT bond to the bait.. it coats over it but it doesn't bond to it. Anytime after that you can just peel that clear coat of like a jacket. It will peel right off and alot of times all in one piece! Its crazy. Also, the same effect can happen if you did them in cold weather... 60* or below.. because it's the reverse effect. Now when you dip, it doesn't bond because the temp of the frog cools the plastic so fast it doesn't bond, same concept.

Moral of the story.. Dont use water to cool the plastic and dont dip cold frogs. Living in chicago sometimes makes it difficult for me but it is what i have figured out.

Here is a pic of one of my racks... it doesnt have the new toads on it but just "hook" the feet around the dowel rods, Jason is exactly right. This pic was taken a while ago

Hope all this Helps!  ;D


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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #10 on: 01/07/12 11:11 UTC »
Yum Yum - Frog Legs for Supper. 
Seriously; that is a rack of really nice looking frogs.  Are those painted dowels ?   How long are the dowels?

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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #11 on: 01/07/12 11:15 UTC »
I was afraid the toad would slip off being just wrapped around and ruin the bait after being freshly dipped, so I didn't try it. I did do the water thing last night, I really didn't care for it.

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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #12 on: 01/07/12 11:20 UTC »
Yum Yum - Frog Legs for Supper. 
Seriously; that is a rack of really nice looking frogs.  Are those painted dowels ?   How long are the dowels?

I can get measurements but its double sided! I love them! I can get about 200 frogs on each rack!  ;D

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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #13 on: 01/07/12 12:06 UTC »
That rack is money.  They won't slip off and will make it super fast and easy.

As far as fishing the Toads...

I honestly think it is the most versatile bait I have fished.  Even more important than the versatility is how well it excels in each area.  I am not trying to "hop" the toad up, but I would honestly consider it a go to bait in each of these areas:

1) Top Water Buzz Frog: rig like any other buzz frog and fish on top.  Only drawback in this area is extreme surface vegetation (the Croaker will come through this cleaner).

2) Top Water Frog Popper: Same as #1 but adding foam.  This allows the toad to float in place and really aggravate the Bass.

3) Flipping Bait: Use an appropriate worm weight and flip it like any other creature bait.  Using it this way it is basically a twin tail flipping bait with the profile of an adolescent Bluegill.  It has a real upside beyond the initial flip (covered under Swim Toad below).

4) Swim Toad: I normally use 1/4 oz worm weight because it is still light enough to work on top, but also heavy enough to work subsurface.  This is my favorite way to fish it because it gets totally jacked on the strike, and my hookup ratio is really high.  Think of this technique like a swim jig.  You can work it so many ways under water, just let the fish tell you what they want.

a) Constant retrieve (fast or slow), maybe drop your tip from time to time.  Just like a Swim Bait.

b) Retrieve / Pause:  Reel a few cranks and let it die and just sit there for a few seconds.  PAY ATTENTION - if there is a fish around you will get bit on a regular basis when it is just sitting there.  This technique obviously is imitating something the Bass really T-off on because it is very effective.

c) Almost like a regular jig / craw setup.  Basically dragging it, or just getting it a touch off the bottom.  Pausing from time to time.  This is a slow presentation.

This is a bait you would want to take out and fish exclusively for periods of time to force yourself to learn all it can do.  It's absolutely worth the on the water time investment.

I know this is a very biased review.  I try to leave the reviews to the community and normally wouldn't be so vocal about a particular bait because there's not a lot of upside for me if you don't experience the same success.  Translation: you respecting my opinion is worth more to me than hyping a bait.  With that said, as a fishermen, I can't emphasize enough how much I love fishing the toad.

Jason

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Re: Big Foot Toad
« Reply #14 on: 01/10/12 05:57 UTC »
I took it down to the creek to watch it swim, if I reeled fast enough for the legs to kick, the bait turned on it's left side(underwater). I slowed down the retrieve but the legs quit kicking and the bait didn't roll. It did fine on top of the water. I was using the bait keeper and the 28 degree hook 5.0 ewg. Any suggestions Jason?