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Laminates...
« on: 12/14/11 12:17 UTC »
Fella's, what's the Secret/Method to pouring Laminates?  I understood it, in my own mind, as Hand-Pouring one side of the mold (in general terms) then closing the mold and shooting the 2nd color.  What's the Best Method/Best Kept Secrets of this Fine (>:() Process?
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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #1 on: 12/14/11 12:40 UTC »
I am hardly the expert in this arena but there a few ways to achieve multi color baits:

1:  Pour 1/2 of mold let it set up a little, close the mold, and inject a second color.  It helps to dip in a clear afterward to mend the two halves and keep the eyes in place

2:  Inject/pour one color baits and then accent with bait dyes (i.e. from Lurecraft)

3:  Use a blending block and dual injector (available from Basstackle)

There may be other methods but these are three that I have tried.  It really depends on how much time you want to spend on the baits and how much you want to trick them out.

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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #2 on: 12/14/11 12:52 UTC »
steady hand and having the temps of both plastics as close to each other as possible... like within 5*

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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #3 on: 12/14/11 13:20 UTC »
Thank Yawl, Fella's!  I think I'm going to have to Give In and get the Dual Injector.  I got a little of Jason's .035" Fire Opal flake and wanted to give it a shot.  This stuff would be WAAAY better if it kept all of it's color...it does have an application, though.  I was shooting for a Clear Water Laminate that I could use for Bass AND Salt...here's what I did...

***Top Color
8 oz.s CCM Plastic
24 Dashes CCM .035" Fire Opal flake
2 Pinches CCM .015" Gunmetal flake
2 Pinches CCM .015" Moss Green flake

***Bottom Color
8 oz.s CCM Plastic
24 Dashes CCM .035" Fire Opal flake

I ended up using an injector (the 2nd time) to Open-Pour the Top Color, closed, then shot the Bottom...after Pouring the Top by hand, was going in a Cold Mold and was setting up faster than the Plastic would settle in...
« Last Edit: 12/14/11 13:29 UTC by BareKnuckleJigs »
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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #4 on: 12/14/11 13:28 UTC »
If I had to describe the Fire Opal flake, once it hits plastic...it loses most of it's color/sheen/Opal flash, yes...BUT, it retains a mild Opal-Spectrum of colors, and looks a bit like "Flash Foil" flake, with killer little "Micro Crinkles".  It's actually pretty nice.
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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #5 on: 12/14/11 15:08 UTC »
What's the temp in the room where you are pouring?  If the molds are too cold and the first layer cools down too quick, you can also get cold cracks in your baits.  If the temp is too hot, the lams will blend.  One common way to warm up the mold is to shoot it full, de-mold, and even shoot it full again and de-mold to bring it up to temp.  Just like most of life works- once you get your kinks out, you'll have it down as there are so many variables...

The Twinjector paired with the blending block works great when you want a 50/50 bait.  The crossmembers attached to it allow for an even pressure with the two injectors versus trying to push down equally on two separate injectors with a blending tip. (just my opinion)  When you want more layers than 2, or doing bellies (o.e. Croaker, etc.) the hand poured belly and injected top (and middle like Jim with his sweet 3 colored Croakers) are tough to beat.

 
 

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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #6 on: 12/14/11 16:21 UTC »
I want to see some pics of the 3 color Croakers!!!! Those three color Wutz-Its he posted were unbelievable!!!
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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #7 on: 12/14/11 16:42 UTC »
I just put a Sexy Swim Shad in the gallery / color cookbook.  They're not quite Ghost or Micro quality, but they are super easy triple lams.  I just poured the top and bottom by hand, then injected the middle.

http://www.caneycreekmolds.net/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=385



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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #8 on: 12/14/11 17:08 UTC »
Ok....now....how about a 4 color????? :P
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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #9 on: 12/14/11 17:11 UTC »
Hey; Andrew; You were reading my mind. You posted here while I posted the same challenge in the gallery.
Is this -- Hey, lets post our really cool bait pictures day?
« Last Edit: 12/14/11 17:43 UTC by pjmcla »

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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #10 on: 12/14/11 17:19 UTC »
Ok....now....how about a 4 color????? :P

It would be just as easy, only difference would be using a blending block vs. just an injector.  You could even add a 5th color by adding a drop of red or orange on the throat.

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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #11 on: 12/14/11 17:46 UTC »
Jason; 

Does that mean we can expect to see a five color bait soon ?
Eye color doesn't count.

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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #12 on: 12/14/11 18:13 UTC »
On the way home I came up with a plan for a 10 color...all poured/injected Wutz-it! Now all I need is the 3 hours it would take to do it! :o
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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #13 on: 12/14/11 18:19 UTC »
that is an awesome color Jason!

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Re: Laminates...
« Reply #14 on: 12/15/11 00:04 UTC »
I just put a Sexy Swim Shad in the gallery / color cookbook.  They're not quite Ghost or Micro quality, but they are super easy triple lams.  I just poured the top and bottom by hand, then injected the middle.

http://www.caneycreekmolds.net/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=385



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You got that accomplished before I could get that mold. What ever you do, please don't think I took your design when I get my mold and pour the same sexy shad. LOL  ;D